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Re: Chinese on NOTICE

Post by Texan » Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:28 am

brian ross wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:55 pm
Black Orchid wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 7:43 pm
And the worst hit areas in the US are the areas where their idiot DemiCom leaders told them to go out and enjoy themselves in Chinatown and to go out and have fun for Chinese New Year in amongst the huge crowds.

Whereas most other areas in the US have a very low infection rate because they are sensible and don't have a DemiCom leader.
Correlation does not create causation, Black Orchid.

There could be several other factors causing low or high infection rates.

The States with the highest infection rates have a high Chinese population. They also have a higher than normal traveling population which goes overseas. The states with lower infection rates might have the reverse of those two factors. Americans are notoriously insular and the majority rarely travel overseas unlike Australia which has approximately a quarter of its population overseas at any one time. What tells against it just being the cause of only Democrat governments is that most of the eastern seaboard which is not exclusively Democrat controlled has high infection rates. What suggests causes high infection rates is because the Americans have a shit health care systems and the poor are unlikely to use it for what amounts for most people as a mild flu. As it is nigh on impossible for the majority of Americans to obey government directions for most things it isn't surprising they aren't practising social distancing. :roll :roll :roll
I'm sure you're more informed on America than anyone here, but I have different theories. California and New York do have a higher number of immigrants from Asia and that explains California, but New York is VERY densely populated and the vast majority of people are dependent on public transit. As communicable as this disease is, subways,buses, and taxis are germ magnets. Stair rails also. New Orleans and Miami were caused by idiots who are bulletproof and want to party on Miami beaches and Mardi Gras celebrations. They spread it and gave it to everybody else.

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Re: Chinese on NOTICE

Post by Texan » Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:28 am

brian ross wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:55 pm
Black Orchid wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 7:43 pm
And the worst hit areas in the US are the areas where their idiot DemiCom leaders told them to go out and enjoy themselves in Chinatown and to go out and have fun for Chinese New Year in amongst the huge crowds.

Whereas most other areas in the US have a very low infection rate because they are sensible and don't have a DemiCom leader.
Correlation does not create causation, Black Orchid.

There could be several other factors causing low or high infection rates.

The States with the highest infection rates have a high Chinese population. They also have a higher than normal traveling population which goes overseas. The states with lower infection rates might have the reverse of those two factors. Americans are notoriously insular and the majority rarely travel overseas unlike Australia which has approximately a quarter of its population overseas at any one time. What tells against it just being the cause of only Democrat governments is that most of the eastern seaboard which is not exclusively Democrat controlled has high infection rates. What suggests causes high infection rates is because the Americans have a shit health care systems and the poor are unlikely to use it for what amounts for most people as a mild flu. As it is nigh on impossible for the majority of Americans to obey government directions for most things it isn't surprising they aren't practising social distancing. :roll :roll :roll
I'm sure you're more informed on America than anyone here, but I have different theories. California and New York do have a higher number of immigrants from Asia and that explains California, but New York is VERY densely populated and the vast majority of people are dependent on public transit. As communicable as this disease is, subways,buses, and taxis are germ magnets. Stair rails also. New Orleans and Miami were caused by idiots who are bulletproof and want to party on Miami beaches and Mardi Gras celebrations. They spread it and gave it to everybody else.

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Re: Chinese on NOTICE

Post by brian ross » Thu Apr 09, 2020 10:44 am

Texan wrote:
Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:28 am
brian ross wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:55 pm
Black Orchid wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 7:43 pm
And the worst hit areas in the US are the areas where their idiot DemiCom leaders told them to go out and enjoy themselves in Chinatown and to go out and have fun for Chinese New Year in amongst the huge crowds.

Whereas most other areas in the US have a very low infection rate because they are sensible and don't have a DemiCom leader.
Correlation does not create causation, Black Orchid.

There could be several other factors causing low or high infection rates.

The States with the highest infection rates have a high Chinese population. They also have a higher than normal traveling population which goes overseas. The states with lower infection rates might have the reverse of those two factors. Americans are notoriously insular and the majority rarely travel overseas unlike Australia which has approximately a quarter of its population overseas at any one time. What tells against it just being the cause of only Democrat governments is that most of the eastern seaboard which is not exclusively Democrat controlled has high infection rates. What suggests causes high infection rates is because the Americans have a shit health care systems and the poor are unlikely to use it for what amounts for most people as a mild flu. As it is nigh on impossible for the majority of Americans to obey government directions for most things it isn't surprising they aren't practising social distancing. :roll :roll :roll
I'm sure you're more informed on America than anyone here, but I have different theories. California and New York do have a higher number of immigrants from Asia and that explains California, but New York is VERY densely populated and the vast majority of people are dependent on public transit. As communicable as this disease is, subways,buses, and taxis are germ magnets. Stair rails also. New Orleans and Miami were caused by idiots who are bulletproof and want to party on Miami beaches and Mardi Gras celebrations. They spread it and gave it to everybody else.
That may be the case but none of what you mention has to do with there being Democrat governments in control of the states. The urban transit could be a vector. It all depends upon how community transmission occurs. I was more interested in how it starts and from who it starts, Tex. Overseas travel is the main factor. Some Asian Americans got it directly from the source, Wuhan. That would explain California and Washington State. On the eastern coast they more than likely got it from Europe and brought it home with them. What is your opinion about Americans obeying Government dictates on social distancing and movement? Are they likely to do so?
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Re: Chinese on NOTICE

Post by Juliar » Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:24 pm

A bit more meaningless arm chair arm waving from the funny Greeny BRossy.

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Re: Chinese on NOTICE

Post by The4thEstate » Fri Apr 10, 2020 3:03 pm

brian ross wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 3:21 pm
I must remember that answer the next time you want to tell me something about Australian society, 4E. :roll :roll
When have I ever tried to tell you something about Australian society?

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brian ross wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 3:21 pm
My comments were general. Now, if Americans are practising social distancing why has COVID-19 become so prevalent in New York city and Los Angeles and "spring break" crowds appeared on the beaches of Florida recently? Mmmm? Was it 'cause of the Democrat Governments? Really? Gosh. Might be something in what Black Orchid says, hey? Bullshit. :roll
Gee, I'm no doctor, nor do I play one on the internet.

But offhand, I would observe that these are major cities where people live, work and walk in crowded spaces. And how do you think many of them get to work? That's right -- in New York's case, they travel in a subway! They also have large homeless populations, many of whom live and perform bodily functions on the sidewalk.

Not exactly a showplace for sterile conditions and social distancing.

And since we're not seeing the same per capita level of outbreak in less populated areas, then by golly, maybe there's something to the theory that big, dirty, crowded cities are petri dishes for coronavirus!

As for spring break in Florida, didn't you ever do anything stupid when you were young?

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Re: Chinese on NOTICE

Post by brian ross » Fri Apr 10, 2020 4:09 pm

And of course the Subway's existence is due to the Democrats, 4E? :roll :roll
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Re: Chinese on NOTICE

Post by Juliar » Fri Apr 10, 2020 4:26 pm

Bit more meaningless arm chair arm waving from the funny Greeny BRossy who does not have a clue what is actually going on.

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Re: Chinese on NOTICE

Post by Black Orchid » Fri Apr 10, 2020 4:29 pm

The4thEstate wrote:
Fri Apr 10, 2020 3:03 pm
brian ross wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 3:21 pm
I must remember that answer the next time you want to tell me something about Australian society, 4E. :roll :roll
When have I ever tried to tell you something about Australian society?

At least one of us is smart enough to know what we don't know.
brian ross wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 3:21 pm
My comments were general. Now, if Americans are practising social distancing why has COVID-19 become so prevalent in New York city and Los Angeles and "spring break" crowds appeared on the beaches of Florida recently? Mmmm? Was it 'cause of the Democrat Governments? Really? Gosh. Might be something in what Black Orchid says, hey? Bullshit. :roll
The4thEstate wrote:
Fri Apr 10, 2020 3:03 pm
Gee, I'm no doctor, nor do I play one on the internet.

But offhand, I would observe that these are major cities where people live, work and walk in crowded spaces. And how do you think many of them get to work? That's right -- in New York's case, they travel in a subway! They also have large homeless populations, many of whom live and perform bodily functions on the sidewalk.

Not exactly a showplace for sterile conditions and social distancing.

And since we're not seeing the same per capita level of outbreak in less populated areas, then by golly, maybe there's something to the theory that big, dirty, crowded cities are petri dishes for coronavirus!

As for spring break in Florida, didn't you ever do anything stupid when you were young?
Of course it didn't help that the Democratic Mayor and Democratic Governor told the people of New York to ignore the Federal recommendations and to keep using the subway and to go out and make whoopee with the masses to celebrate Chinese New Year.

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Re: Chinese on NOTICE

Post by sprintcyclist » Sat Apr 11, 2020 1:12 am

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Re: Chinese on NOTICE

Post by cods » Sat Apr 11, 2020 8:54 am

my own personal opinion of amerikas handling of this pandemic..

its one big balls up...

sorry but it is....

the States all want to run their own agendas whilst pointing at the Fed to blame for everything...

two many chiefs and not enough indians....

stop concentrating on the worst State look for the BESt and follow their lead..

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