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Post by The4thEstate » Fri Mar 27, 2020 12:40 am

cods wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 6:23 pm
I think its time we gave the leaders some credit instead of the constant bitching

after all WHO IN THIS WORLD EVER EXPECTED A PANDEMIC OF THIS SIZE?????

who in this world is prepared????...

sure Singapore have had good results... but with less than 6 mill people so they bloody should...

give us a break people stop the stuffing complaining if you think you can do better

stand up and be counted....if not suck it up.
Right ... and in this video clip from January, here's what Democrat presidential candidate Joe Biden thought was wrong with Trump's ban on Chinese travelers. (Note how he seems to be reading his comments off a script.)
https://grabien.com/story.php?id=278449

Yeah, that's the guy I want in charge of America's coronavirus response!

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Re: Trumps Achievements

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billy the kid wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 1:51 pm
4E...youre fucked....
Nahhh ... we've known all along that the number of cases was going to peak.

Let's see how high the peak is and how soon we're on the downslide.

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Re: Trumps Achievements

Post by The4thEstate » Fri Mar 27, 2020 12:54 am

Redneck wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 3:48 pm
Black Orchid wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 2:17 pm
Redneck wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 1:40 pm
Re USA
How about 9279 new cases since yesterday almost twice as many as both Spain and Italy. Highest in the world on latest figures
How about now 11074 (updated a couple of hours later)
This should be in the appropriate thread.
Yeah I know perhaps you can move them.

Its all 4Es fault :rofl
Nope, I never said my statistic was going to remain constant.

Hence my specific wording: "We've got fewer than 600 deaths at last count."

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Re: Trumps Achievements

Post by The4thEstate » Fri Mar 27, 2020 1:13 am

Redneck wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 11:32 am
Good post imo from SadKangaroo elsewhere!

I dont suppose he will get an invite to join here! :D
sadkangaroo wrote:I just watched Trump's latest press conference,
Right, Trump has a coronavirus press conference every day -- accompanied by his top cabinet members and medical advisors.
sadkangaroo wrote: "It's hard not to be happy with the job we're doing"

Wtf?
Oh, right -- Trump should have looked right into the camera and declared, "Fellow Americans, my administration is doing an abysmal job at stopping the virus ... we have no idea what we're doing ... and you're all going to die. Good night and God bless!"
sadkangaroo wrote:
He didn't address what is being done to stop the spread of the virus.
Huh? That's all Trump's been talking about since he started giving these press conferences. Or if not him, one of the relevant medical experts or top administration officials.

Try watching more than one press conference.
sadkangaroo wrote:
All they're doing is talking about the economy, Trump didn't even mention the deaths.
He's mentioned them before and expressed his condolences.
sadkangaroo wrote:
It's as if he's trying to get his campaign rally therapy via the press conferences.
If you think his coronavirus press conferences resemble in any way his campaign rallies, you've never seen a Trump campaign rally.
sadkangaroo wrote:
He spoke about NATO... It was just Rally topics over and over...

Nothing about the Pandemic, the actions the people need to take to stop the spread or stay safe.
At this point, everybody knows we're supposed to practice "social distancing," wash our hands a lot and not sneeze or cough in people's faces.

What else do you think we need to know about "staying safe" that Trump or medical experts haven't already told us?
sadkangaroo wrote:
I'm not a fan of #ScottyFromMarketing but at least he's been showing leadership and being open and frank with the people about the challenges we face and what we all need to be doing in the community, not just about the economy.
Maybe that's because his country's economy hasn't been as adversely affected as America's, particularly the stock market.

Yes, the economy is hugely relevant to Americans in connection with the coronavirus.
sadkangaroo wrote: Trump went on about Fake News when a question was asked about the Easter timeline where he was getting that from given that all experts, medial and scientific are saying it's a terrible idea.
Wow ... really? You've talked to "all experts, medical and scientific," and EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM agrees that it's a bad idea? Imagine that!
sadkangaroo wrote:
He's calling the expert advice fake news because it makes him look bad.
When did Trump ever call someone else's expert medical advice "fake news"?
sadkangaroo wrote:
Scoot, are you listening?

Now he's talking about how much Wall is built...
Ummm ... yeah, because part of that "staying safe" thing you were talking about involves keeping infected outsiders out of your country ... especially when they're trying to sneak in.
sadkangaroo wrote: It's a rally, a lie-filled, bullshitting rally, not a pandemic response press conference.
And what did he specifically lie about?

I mean, is there really not a wall being built along the southern border? Hey, maybe the construction is all being faked on video, like, y'know, that 1969 moon landing!
sadkangaroo wrote: He didn't mention anything about deaths or what the people need to do.
You said that already.
sadkangaroo wrote:
I can understand not highlighting the deaths, but at least tell the people what they need to do...
They already know what to do. We've been at this since January, bro.
sadkangaroo wrote:
Nothing.

Where is the leadership?

He was just there to lie about what good a job he's doing and take credit for it.
Whereas you were expecting him to apologize for a virus that started in China ... and claim he had nothing whatsoever to do with the comprehensive national response to the virus?

Obviously most Americans don't agree with your assessment:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... l-k86e29ot

Trump’s Handling of Coronavirus Approved by 60% in Gallup Poll

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Re: Trumps Achievements

Post by billy the kid » Fri Mar 27, 2020 9:26 am

The4thEstate wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 12:52 am
billy the kid wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 1:51 pm
4E...youre fucked....
Nahhh ... we've known all along that the number of cases was going to peak.

Let's see how high the peak is and how soon we're on the downslide.
I see that the US is top of the list in the countries hardest hit by the virus....
81,000+ cases with 1000 deaths...higher than Italy, China, or any other country....
New York must be a toilet....well, actually it is...…
AND Trump says that the economy will be up and running by easter….
Gung ho.....
Hows that working for ya.....
Strange how I always detect more than just a slight hint of condescension in posts
from the US.... :shock:
To discover those who rule over you, first discover those who you cannot criticize...Voltaire
Its coming...the rest of the world versus islam....or is it here already...

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Re: Trumps Achievements

Post by Redneck » Fri Mar 27, 2020 9:50 am

billy the kid wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 9:26 am

Strange how I always detect more than just a slight hint of condescension in posts
from the US.... :shock:
Yes I have noticed that myself!

:rofl

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Post by SadKangaroo » Fri Mar 27, 2020 9:55 am

Hello Friends.

I can see the faithful are compelled to support Trump in everything he does here too.
The4thEstate wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 1:13 am
Oh, right -- Trump should have looked right into the camera and declared, "Fellow Americans, my administration is doing an abysmal job at stopping the virus ... we have no idea what we're doing ... and you're all going to die. Good night and God bless!"
There is a lot more to quote, but I'm not going to hit each comment one by one.

The point is, his White House sessions which are meant to give the public critical and truthful information about the crisis are instead working against that end. Rather, they have become a daily stage for Trump to play his greatest hits to captive audience members. The American people come in search of life or death information, but what they get from him instead is self-aggrandisement, media bashing, exaggeration and outright lies.

There is little to no public benefit to them. The only times they're of value is when the like of Dr Fauci is allowed to talk and give out vital information but then Trump then sends someone in after him, like Pence, to contradict everything the doctor just said and paint it in a more favourable light to the administration.

Yes, I've been watching all the press conferences (I am yet to catch the latest one, he may have redeemed himself), not just the one I commented on. As I said, if you compare him to those of other world leaders or even our state leaders in Australia, they're all about him.

If you're so sure people know what they need to be doing and don't need Trump to tell them, why aren't they doing it in the US?

By in large it's not the conservatives or the Trump supporters who are observing social distancing. At the time of the presser I was commenting on, 30 states were doing nothing to stop the spread.

And all he's doing is boasting about what he's doing while at the same time misleading and exaggerating the significance of it, patting himself on the back as he goes.

I just watched Gladys Berejiklian latest address. While I dislike her for multiple very valid reasons, she's doing a great job at communicating with the public,



This is not what Trump is doing.

He hasn't found the balance of firstly, putting his ego and reelection aside and then giving people valuable information as well as trying to stay positive but realistic.

He is still campaigning and not leading. He never transitioned out of it, even after taking the oath of office.

It's just beautiful this, tremendous that. Nothing of substance, nothing about staying isolated, acting as if you have the virus in order to limit it's spread, it's all about exaggerating the testing saying they're doing a better job than South Korea, even though per capita the last numbers I saw they're still 30 times worse than South Korea.

He's still getting those there with him to spin the situation to follow up those giving valuable information such as the doctors to, will spin the situation, confusing the important messages even more.

Defend him all you like, but anyone can see that he's not doing a good job addressing the people.

Unless to the people that still think this is all a hoax to hurt Trump, they're happy to see him try to take advantage of the situation for his political gain and respond to it in such a poor way.

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Post by SadKangaroo » Fri Mar 27, 2020 1:49 pm

"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."

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Post by Black Orchid » Fri Mar 27, 2020 2:22 pm

I can't open the video but I see Cuomo pictured so if it's about Trump v Cuomo I've seen it all. Cuomo is the reason why NY has a shortage of ventilators to begin with. He was advised 5 years ago to purchase 16,000 extra ventilators but decided to splurge $750 million on a solar factory instead. To make matters worse he hasn't even shut down the mass transport system.

viewtopic.php?f=66&t=17048&p=282035&hilit=cuomo#p282035

As for Gladys, sure she comes across much better than Trump in the verbals but SHE is responsible for someone in her government letting thousands off the Ruby Princess which has made the virus in NSW exponentially worse than it should be. Many people will die just from that one stupid decision.

She is also still allowing in overseas travellers even though there is supposedly a travel ban. The debacle at Sydney airport yesterday was appalling and has potentially put many more of us at risk.

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Re: Trumps Achievements

Post by SadKangaroo » Fri Mar 27, 2020 2:42 pm

JEEEEEESUS FUCKING CHRIST...

I just watched Trump's latest presser, I... There is no words what the actual fuck...

You've got to just see it for yourself.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiHv37fNuek?t=2465[/youtube]

At least he mentioned Social Distancing this time and urged people to stay home, finally!
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