The future of the ALP?

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Re: The future of the ALP?

Post by sprintcyclist » Tue Jul 02, 2019 6:12 pm

I heard on the radio, those that vote for the ALP are innercity wealthy and journalists
Those that live in suburbs that do not have a 'Red Rooster' shop



The 'working class' vote for the liberals.
Those that live in suburbs that have a 'Red Rooster' shops
Right Wing is the Natural Progression.

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Re: The future of the ALP?

Post by The Reboot » Tue Jul 02, 2019 7:31 pm

Black Orchid wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 5:33 pm
The Reboot wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 7:09 pm
brian ross wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:04 pm
The Mechanic wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 3:44 pm
brian ross wrote:
Sat Jun 29, 2019 8:27 pm
None so ignorant who refuse to see... :roll:
What are your thoughts Bwian?

Are you waiting to see what others write so that you can come in to try and kick them?

Put up or shut up 🤐
My thoughts? I see the ALP attempting to restructure itself to make itself more attractive to the voters at the next election. While, in theory, Australian federal elections are not "Presidential" in style, being reliant on the number of seats won, to win Government, rather than the personality of the leader, increasingly they are becoming that way. Shorten wasn't popular with the voters, so the ALP failed to gain sufficient votes to win sufficient seats to form government because the voters didn't like the leader. So, in practice it seems nowadys, policy plays second fiddle to personality. Which is IMO a real shame. Whether the ALP has come to the same conclusion is still a mystery or even if my analysis is correct. What do you think, Mechie - of course without resorting to conspiracy land theories, please. :roll:
Not entirely correct. I would have voted for Labor had they had their priorities right with their policies. Sorry, but a "sexual orientation minister" is a crock of shit and a waste of time and money.

Labor used to be for the working man. Now it's for commie hipster faggotry. The public were forced to choose the "lesser evil".
My mind still boggles at the thought that they really thought the majority of Aussies would ever go for that :b

They really need to change direction but with their last batch of ridiculous policies who would believe them if they did anyway?

Number ONE priority would be to totally ditch the Greens. Next point of order should be get out from under the Unions.
It's because of a very loud minority of commie hipster faggots. They were arrogant and believed they would get in easily and relied upon the Liberal party infighting. Imo anyway. Because politicians don't live in the real world, they fail to realize that most people just wanna live their lives and don't want to be inundated with identity politics. It irritates most people.

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Re: The future of the ALP?

Post by Juliar » Tue Jul 02, 2019 11:54 pm

For a brilliant summary of where the Labor Party isn't see

https://www.facebook.com/alanjonesaustr ... 979097791/

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Re: The future of the ALP?

Post by The Mechanic » Mon Jul 08, 2019 3:42 pm

Neferti~ wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 6:36 pm
brian ross wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:04 pm

My thoughts? I see the ALP attempting to restructure itself to make itself more attractive to the voters at the next election. While, in theory, Australian federal elections are not "Presidential" in style, being reliant on the number of seats won, to win Government, rather than the personality of the leader, increasingly they are becoming that way. Shorten wasn't popular with the voters, so the ALP failed to gain sufficient votes to win sufficient seats to form government because the voters didn't like the leader. So, in practice it seems nowadys, policy plays second fiddle to personality. Which is IMO a real shame. Whether the ALP has come to the same conclusion is still a mystery or even if my analysis is correct. What do you think, Mechie - of course without resorting to conspiracy land theories, please. :roll:
IF the ALP wants to attract their "base" they, firstly, need to disassociate themselves from the Greens! Simples.
BINGO...

And thats just step one...
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Re: The future of the ALP?

Post by The Mechanic » Mon Jul 08, 2019 3:43 pm

The Reboot wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 7:31 pm
Black Orchid wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 5:33 pm
The Reboot wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 7:09 pm
brian ross wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:04 pm
The Mechanic wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 3:44 pm


What are your thoughts Bwian?

Are you waiting to see what others write so that you can come in to try and kick them?

Put up or shut up 🤐
My thoughts? I see the ALP attempting to restructure itself to make itself more attractive to the voters at the next election. While, in theory, Australian federal elections are not "Presidential" in style, being reliant on the number of seats won, to win Government, rather than the personality of the leader, increasingly they are becoming that way. Shorten wasn't popular with the voters, so the ALP failed to gain sufficient votes to win sufficient seats to form government because the voters didn't like the leader. So, in practice it seems nowadys, policy plays second fiddle to personality. Which is IMO a real shame. Whether the ALP has come to the same conclusion is still a mystery or even if my analysis is correct. What do you think, Mechie - of course without resorting to conspiracy land theories, please. :roll:
Not entirely correct. I would have voted for Labor had they had their priorities right with their policies. Sorry, but a "sexual orientation minister" is a crock of shit and a waste of time and money.

Labor used to be for the working man. Now it's for commie hipster faggotry. The public were forced to choose the "lesser evil".
My mind still boggles at the thought that they really thought the majority of Aussies would ever go for that :b

They really need to change direction but with their last batch of ridiculous policies who would believe them if they did anyway?

Number ONE priority would be to totally ditch the Greens. Next point of order should be get out from under the Unions.
It's because of a very loud minority of commie hipster faggots. They were arrogant and believed they would get in easily and relied upon the Liberal party infighting. Imo anyway. Because politicians don't live in the real world, they fail to realize that most people just wanna live their lives and don't want to be inundated with identity politics. It irritates most people.
Bingo...

Step 2
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Re: The future of the ALP?

Post by The Mechanic » Mon Jul 08, 2019 3:46 pm

sprintcyclist wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 6:12 pm
I heard on the radio, those that vote for the ALP are innercity wealthy and journalists
Those that live in suburbs that do not have a 'Red Rooster' shop



The 'working class' vote for the liberals.
Those that live in suburbs that have a 'Red Rooster' shops
But isn’t Labor FOR the working class?

It has lost its way on about everything that USED to be Labor...

To say that “It was Bill Shorten” because no one likes the slimy back stabbing asshole is simply too, Simplistic. ...

Oh.. and Billions of dollars in New Taxes????

Brian doesn’t think that cost them any votes ... :roll:
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Re: The future of the ALP?

Post by The Mechanic » Mon Jul 08, 2019 3:49 pm

sprintcyclist wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 8:48 am
The alp did not speak honestly. their voters know that.
You try telling a tradesman an out and out lie. It will not wash. tell a tradesman lies repeatedly, they will leave you

the alp were focussed on 'selling a product' and had all the hype, glitz and wishful rainbow equality phases to float a new advertising company.
the alp were dishonest, untrustworthy and arrogant.
hallmarks of a sociopathic person.
Yes, simply not answering questions doesn’t cut it...

Neither arrogantly telling voters that if they don’t like their new Taxes then don’t vote for them...

There were their own worst enemies...
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Re: The future of the ALP?

Post by Neferti » Mon Jul 08, 2019 6:12 pm

I always thought that Labor was for the blue collar workers and Unionists. The Greens for the environment. Liberal for the business and educated people and Country/National for people in the country. Times have changed, I guess. It appears that the so-called "progressives" seem to vote Labor because they believe in socialism and so forth?
A progressive is someone who wants to see more economic and social equality - and hopes to see more gains in feminism and gay rights.
I would NEVER vote for Labor or the Greens.

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Re: The future of the ALP?

Post by brian ross » Mon Jul 08, 2019 8:42 pm

A very simplistic and naive view of how politics works in Australia, Neferti but not unusual I suppose for you. You appear to have led a very sheltered life if you believe that. :roll:
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Re: The future of the ALP?

Post by Juliar » Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:19 pm

The future for Labor ?

To remain in OPPOSITION for the next 20 years.

Labor has lost its reason for existing just like the Greenies have.

When will the Labor Party and the Greenies unite to form the GARBO Party ?

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