The future of the ALP?

[brian ross]

None so ignorant who refuse to see...

What are your thoughts Bwian?

Are you waiting to see what others write so that you can come in to try and kick them?

Put up or shut up

My thoughts? I see the ALP attempting to restructure itself to make itself more attractive to the voters at the next election. While, in theory, Australian federal elections are not "Presidential" in style, being reliant on the number of seats won, to win Government, rather than the personality of the leader, increasingly they are becoming that way. Shorten wasn't popular with the voters, so the ALP failed to gain sufficient votes to win sufficient seats to form government because the voters didn't like the leader. So, in practice it seems nowadys, policy plays second fiddle to personality. Which is IMO a real shame. Whether the ALP has come to the same conclusion is still a mystery or even if my analysis is correct. What do you think, Mechie - of course without resorting to conspiracy land theories, please.

[Neferti]

My thoughts? I see the ALP attempting to restructure itself to make itself more attractive to the voters at the next election. While, in theory, Australian federal elections are not "Presidential" in style, being reliant on the number of seats won, to win Government, rather than the personality of the leader, increasingly they are becoming that way. Shorten wasn't popular with the voters, so the ALP failed to gain sufficient votes to win sufficient seats to form government because the voters didn't like the leader. So, in practice it seems nowadys, policy plays second fiddle to personality. Which is IMO a real shame. Whether the ALP has come to the same conclusion is still a mystery or even if my analysis is correct. What do you think, Mechie - of course without resorting to conspiracy land theories, please.

IF the ALP wants to attract their "base" they, firstly, need to disassociate themselves from the Greens! Simples.

[The Reboot]

None so ignorant who refuse to see...

What are your thoughts Bwian?

Are you waiting to see what others write so that you can come in to try and kick them?

Put up or shut up

My thoughts? I see the ALP attempting to restructure itself to make itself more attractive to the voters at the next election. While, in theory, Australian federal elections are not "Presidential" in style, being reliant on the number of seats won, to win Government, rather than the personality of the leader, increasingly they are becoming that way. Shorten wasn't popular with the voters, so the ALP failed to gain sufficient votes to win sufficient seats to form government because the voters didn't like the leader. So, in practice it seems nowadys, policy plays second fiddle to personality. Which is IMO a real shame. Whether the ALP has come to the same conclusion is still a mystery or even if my analysis is correct. What do you think, Mechie - of course without resorting to conspiracy land theories, please.

Not entirely correct. I would have voted for Labor had they had their priorities right with their policies. Sorry, but a "sexual orientation minister" is a crock of shit and a waste of time and money.

Labor used to be for the working man. Now it's for commie hipster faggotry. The public were forced to choose the "lesser evil".

[brian ross]

My thoughts? I see the ALP attempting to restructure itself to make itself more attractive to the voters at the next election. While, in theory, Australian federal elections are not "Presidential" in style, being reliant on the number of seats won, to win Government, rather than the personality of the leader, increasingly they are becoming that way. Shorten wasn't popular with the voters, so the ALP failed to gain sufficient votes to win sufficient seats to form government because the voters didn't like the leader. So, in practice it seems nowadys, policy plays second fiddle to personality. Which is IMO a real shame. Whether the ALP has come to the same conclusion is still a mystery or even if my analysis is correct. What do you think, Mechie - of course without resorting to conspiracy land theories, please.

IF the ALP wants to attract their "base" they, firstly, need to disassociate themselves from the Greens! Simples.

Using that logic, when will we see the Tories disassociate themselves from the Nationals?

The Greens are basically in sympathy with the ALP, just as the Nationals are in sympathy with the Tories. Therefore, they go together much more easily in coalition. They essentially both want similar goals.

[brian ross]

None so ignorant who refuse to see...

What are your thoughts Bwian?

Are you waiting to see what others write so that you can come in to try and kick them?

Put up or shut up

My thoughts? I see the ALP attempting to restructure itself to make itself more attractive to the voters at the next election. While, in theory, Australian federal elections are not "Presidential" in style, being reliant on the number of seats won, to win Government, rather than the personality of the leader, increasingly they are becoming that way. Shorten wasn't popular with the voters, so the ALP failed to gain sufficient votes to win sufficient seats to form government because the voters didn't like the leader. So, in practice it seems nowadys, policy plays second fiddle to personality. Which is IMO a real shame. Whether the ALP has come to the same conclusion is still a mystery or even if my analysis is correct. What do you think, Mechie - of course without resorting to conspiracy land theories, please.

Not entirely correct. I would have voted for Labor had they had their priorities right with their policies. Sorry, but a "sexual orientation minister" is a crock of shit and a waste of time and money.

Labor used to be for the working man. Now it's for commie hipster faggotry. The public were forced to choose the "lesser evil".

Depends on what you want? The ALP was trying to appeal to a broad left base - from working people through to the "commie hipster faggots". The "lesser of two evils" is still evil. Just marginally better. Personally, I would suggest that the Tories are basically just evil.

[IQS.RLOW]

Personally, I would suggest that the Tories are basically just evil.

Conservatives think their opposition is wrong and will explain why.
Regressive just call people evil and want them silenced.


... hows that working out for you Bri Bri?

[sprintcyclist]

The alp did not speak honestly. their voters know that.
You try telling a tradesman an out and out lie. It will not wash. tell a tradesman lies repeatedly, they will leave you

the alp were focussed on 'selling a product' and had all the hype, glitz and wishful rainbow equality phases to float a new advertising company.
the alp were dishonest, untrustworthy and arrogant.
hallmarks of a sociopathic person.

[Juliar]

The future of the ALP is to remain in OPPOSITION for the next 20 years.

[Wally Raffles]

I read most of it!

(Tended to struggle at the end - phew bloody long article !)

Anyway on the whole - some good advice for Labor imo!

lol mate I gave them my advise.... do you think they will take it??..

they only listen to the union anyway......

so whats happening with setka??????

I seem to have the 5th July in mind as some relevant date for him.

[Black Orchid]

None so ignorant who refuse to see...

What are your thoughts Bwian?

Are you waiting to see what others write so that you can come in to try and kick them?

Put up or shut up

My thoughts? I see the ALP attempting to restructure itself to make itself more attractive to the voters at the next election. While, in theory, Australian federal elections are not "Presidential" in style, being reliant on the number of seats won, to win Government, rather than the personality of the leader, increasingly they are becoming that way. Shorten wasn't popular with the voters, so the ALP failed to gain sufficient votes to win sufficient seats to form government because the voters didn't like the leader. So, in practice it seems nowadys, policy plays second fiddle to personality. Which is IMO a real shame. Whether the ALP has come to the same conclusion is still a mystery or even if my analysis is correct. What do you think, Mechie - of course without resorting to conspiracy land theories, please.

Not entirely correct. I would have voted for Labor had they had their priorities right with their policies. Sorry, but a "sexual orientation minister" is a crock of shit and a waste of time and money.

Labor used to be for the working man. Now it's for commie hipster faggotry. The public were forced to choose the "lesser evil".

My mind still boggles at the thought that they really thought the majority of Aussies would ever go for that

They really need to change direction but with their last batch of ridiculous policies who would believe them if they did anyway?

Number ONE priority would be to totally ditch the Greens. Next point of order should be get out from under the Unions.