The future of the ALP?
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Re: The future of the ALP?
I heard on the radio, those that vote for the ALP are innercity wealthy and journalists
Those that live in suburbs that do not have a 'Red Rooster' shop
The 'working class' vote for the liberals.
Those that live in suburbs that have a 'Red Rooster' shops
Those that live in suburbs that do not have a 'Red Rooster' shop
The 'working class' vote for the liberals.
Those that live in suburbs that have a 'Red Rooster' shops
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Re: The future of the ALP?
It's because of a very loud minority of commie hipster faggots. They were arrogant and believed they would get in easily and relied upon the Liberal party infighting. Imo anyway. Because politicians don't live in the real world, they fail to realize that most people just wanna live their lives and don't want to be inundated with identity politics. It irritates most people.Black Orchid wrote: ↑Tue Jul 02, 2019 5:33 pmMy mind still boggles at the thought that they really thought the majority of Aussies would ever go for thatThe Reboot wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 7:09 pmNot entirely correct. I would have voted for Labor had they had their priorities right with their policies. Sorry, but a "sexual orientation minister" is a crock of shit and a waste of time and money.brian ross wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:04 pmMy thoughts? I see the ALP attempting to restructure itself to make itself more attractive to the voters at the next election. While, in theory, Australian federal elections are not "Presidential" in style, being reliant on the number of seats won, to win Government, rather than the personality of the leader, increasingly they are becoming that way. Shorten wasn't popular with the voters, so the ALP failed to gain sufficient votes to win sufficient seats to form government because the voters didn't like the leader. So, in practice it seems nowadys, policy plays second fiddle to personality. Which is IMO a real shame. Whether the ALP has come to the same conclusion is still a mystery or even if my analysis is correct. What do you think, Mechie - of course without resorting to conspiracy land theories, please.The Mechanic wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 3:44 pmWhat are your thoughts Bwian?
Are you waiting to see what others write so that you can come in to try and kick them?
Put up or shut up
Labor used to be for the working man. Now it's for commie hipster faggotry. The public were forced to choose the "lesser evil".
They really need to change direction but with their last batch of ridiculous policies who would believe them if they did anyway?
Number ONE priority would be to totally ditch the Greens. Next point of order should be get out from under the Unions.
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Re: The future of the ALP?
For a brilliant summary of where the Labor Party isn't see
https://www.facebook.com/alanjonesaustr ... 979097791/
https://www.facebook.com/alanjonesaustr ... 979097791/
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Re: The future of the ALP?
BINGO...Neferti~ wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 6:36 pmIF the ALP wants to attract their "base" they, firstly, need to disassociate themselves from the Greens! Simples.brian ross wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:04 pm
My thoughts? I see the ALP attempting to restructure itself to make itself more attractive to the voters at the next election. While, in theory, Australian federal elections are not "Presidential" in style, being reliant on the number of seats won, to win Government, rather than the personality of the leader, increasingly they are becoming that way. Shorten wasn't popular with the voters, so the ALP failed to gain sufficient votes to win sufficient seats to form government because the voters didn't like the leader. So, in practice it seems nowadys, policy plays second fiddle to personality. Which is IMO a real shame. Whether the ALP has come to the same conclusion is still a mystery or even if my analysis is correct. What do you think, Mechie - of course without resorting to conspiracy land theories, please.
And thats just step one...
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Re: The future of the ALP?
Bingo...The Reboot wrote: ↑Tue Jul 02, 2019 7:31 pmIt's because of a very loud minority of commie hipster faggots. They were arrogant and believed they would get in easily and relied upon the Liberal party infighting. Imo anyway. Because politicians don't live in the real world, they fail to realize that most people just wanna live their lives and don't want to be inundated with identity politics. It irritates most people.Black Orchid wrote: ↑Tue Jul 02, 2019 5:33 pmMy mind still boggles at the thought that they really thought the majority of Aussies would ever go for thatThe Reboot wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 7:09 pmNot entirely correct. I would have voted for Labor had they had their priorities right with their policies. Sorry, but a "sexual orientation minister" is a crock of shit and a waste of time and money.brian ross wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:04 pmMy thoughts? I see the ALP attempting to restructure itself to make itself more attractive to the voters at the next election. While, in theory, Australian federal elections are not "Presidential" in style, being reliant on the number of seats won, to win Government, rather than the personality of the leader, increasingly they are becoming that way. Shorten wasn't popular with the voters, so the ALP failed to gain sufficient votes to win sufficient seats to form government because the voters didn't like the leader. So, in practice it seems nowadys, policy plays second fiddle to personality. Which is IMO a real shame. Whether the ALP has come to the same conclusion is still a mystery or even if my analysis is correct. What do you think, Mechie - of course without resorting to conspiracy land theories, please.The Mechanic wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 3:44 pm
What are your thoughts Bwian?
Are you waiting to see what others write so that you can come in to try and kick them?
Put up or shut up
Labor used to be for the working man. Now it's for commie hipster faggotry. The public were forced to choose the "lesser evil".
They really need to change direction but with their last batch of ridiculous policies who would believe them if they did anyway?
Number ONE priority would be to totally ditch the Greens. Next point of order should be get out from under the Unions.
Step 2
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Re: The future of the ALP?
But isn’t Labor FOR the working class?sprintcyclist wrote: ↑Tue Jul 02, 2019 6:12 pmI heard on the radio, those that vote for the ALP are innercity wealthy and journalists
Those that live in suburbs that do not have a 'Red Rooster' shop
The 'working class' vote for the liberals.
Those that live in suburbs that have a 'Red Rooster' shops
It has lost its way on about everything that USED to be Labor...
To say that “It was Bill Shorten” because no one likes the slimy back stabbing asshole is simply too, Simplistic. ...
Oh.. and Billions of dollars in New Taxes????
Brian doesn’t think that cost them any votes ...
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Re: The future of the ALP?
Yes, simply not answering questions doesn’t cut it...sprintcyclist wrote: ↑Tue Jul 02, 2019 8:48 amThe alp did not speak honestly. their voters know that.
You try telling a tradesman an out and out lie. It will not wash. tell a tradesman lies repeatedly, they will leave you
the alp were focussed on 'selling a product' and had all the hype, glitz and wishful rainbow equality phases to float a new advertising company.
the alp were dishonest, untrustworthy and arrogant.
hallmarks of a sociopathic person.
Neither arrogantly telling voters that if they don’t like their new Taxes then don’t vote for them...
There were their own worst enemies...
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Re: The future of the ALP?
I always thought that Labor was for the blue collar workers and Unionists. The Greens for the environment. Liberal for the business and educated people and Country/National for people in the country. Times have changed, I guess. It appears that the so-called "progressives" seem to vote Labor because they believe in socialism and so forth?
I would NEVER vote for Labor or the Greens.A progressive is someone who wants to see more economic and social equality - and hopes to see more gains in feminism and gay rights.
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Re: The future of the ALP?
A very simplistic and naive view of how politics works in Australia, Neferti but not unusual I suppose for you. You appear to have led a very sheltered life if you believe that.
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Re: The future of the ALP?
The future for Labor ?
To remain in OPPOSITION for the next 20 years.
Labor has lost its reason for existing just like the Greenies have.
When will the Labor Party and the Greenies unite to form the GARBO Party ?
To remain in OPPOSITION for the next 20 years.
Labor has lost its reason for existing just like the Greenies have.
When will the Labor Party and the Greenies unite to form the GARBO Party ?
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