Is mathematics invented or discovered?

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Is mathematics invented or discovered?

Post by Super Nova » Tue Mar 29, 2022 7:22 pm

Age old question.

What do you think?

Is mathematics invented or discovered?
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Re: Is mathematics invented or discovered?

Post by J o h n S m i t h » Tue Mar 29, 2022 7:23 pm

discovered ... mathematics exists whether you are aware of it or not

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Re: Is mathematics invented or discovered?

Post by Jovial Monk » Tue Mar 29, 2022 9:22 pm

Counting would have started and arithmetic followed.

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Re: Is mathematics invented or discovered?

Post by Bobby » Wed Mar 30, 2022 12:45 am

Super Nova wrote:
Tue Mar 29, 2022 7:22 pm
Age old question.

What do you think?

Is mathematics invented or discovered?

That is a big question.
I think that most of it is discovered.

more here:
https://www.sciencefocus.com/science/wa ... iscovered/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy_of_mathematics

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Re: Is mathematics invented or discovered?

Post by J o h n S m i t h » Wed Mar 30, 2022 3:40 pm

Jovial Monk wrote:
Tue Mar 29, 2022 9:22 pm
Counting would have started and arithmetic followed.
whether you can count or not, ten is always ten, two is always two ... you cannot 'invent' a number, you can only invent the word you use to refer to that number. Learning to count is the 'discovery

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Re: Is mathematics invented or discovered?

Post by Jovial Monk » Wed Mar 30, 2022 4:35 pm

Exactly.

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Re: Is mathematics invented or discovered?

Post by Nom De Plume » Wed Mar 30, 2022 6:55 pm

Super Nova wrote:
Tue Mar 29, 2022 7:22 pm
Age old question.

What do you think?

Is mathematics invented or discovered?
To my mind, mathematics is the exploration and investigation of all possible patterns. As such, it is a discovery process that uses rationalism as its primary tool.
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Re: Is mathematics invented or discovered?

Post by Nom De Plume » Wed Mar 30, 2022 10:16 pm

Nom De Plume wrote:
Wed Mar 30, 2022 6:55 pm
Super Nova wrote:
Tue Mar 29, 2022 7:22 pm
Age old question.

What do you think?

Is mathematics invented or discovered?
To my mind, mathematics is the exploration and investigation of all possible patterns. As such, it is a discovery process that uses rationalism as its primary tool.
I should also add that rationalism invents the symbols and language necessary to understanding mathematics.

So the answer to the question... Is mathematics invented or discovered?
It is both!
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Re: Is mathematics invented or discovered?

Post by J o h n S m i t h » Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:10 pm

Nom De Plume wrote:
Wed Mar 30, 2022 10:16 pm
should also add that rationalism invents the symbols and language necessary to understanding mathematics.

So the answer to the question... Is mathematics invented or discovered?
It is both!
I disagree ... it is irrelevant whether you understand mathematics. Sure, it may make you feel good, but it doesn't change whats out there. It exists with or without your knowledge.

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Re: Is mathematics invented or discovered?

Post by Nom De Plume » Fri Apr 01, 2022 11:51 am

J o h n S m i t h wrote:
Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:10 pm
Nom De Plume wrote:
Wed Mar 30, 2022 10:16 pm
should also add that rationalism invents the symbols and language necessary to understanding mathematics.

So the answer to the question... Is mathematics invented or discovered?
It is both!
I disagree ... it is irrelevant whether you understand mathematics. Sure, it may make you feel good, but it doesn't change whats out there. It exists with or without your knowledge.
whether you can count or not, ten is always ten, two is always two ... you cannot 'invent' a number, you can only invent the word you use to refer to that number. Learning to count is the 'discovery
You are dancing around with with words, Smith resulting in confusion.

See that sentence of yours, now in pink?

You have failed to tell us what 'IT,' is... only that 'IT' exist with or without our knowledge of same.
And, how do you know that 'IT' exists? What evidence do you have of 'ITS' existence and from where did that evidence come?
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