Predicition: The mining tax will be the downfall of labor

[IQS.RLOW]

Not only do Labor not have the stones to stand up to the Greens because they and the Greens know that Labor are dependent on them to hold any form of govt, the Greens are determined to bring down labor and labor not only know it, they are playing right into their hands and they and the greens know it. For all labors blustering rhetoric, they are on the ropes being pummeled by their own partner

The mining tax may be the one issue that labor will have to take to an election because they will not get their legislation through unless they majorly capitulate to the greens but they have already done the deal with the miners that is not likely to be modified considering the Rudd/labor/Gillard ballsup

If Labor take the issue to an election, then they would have the backing of the major miners.

It would be the only ally they have.

Labor are being fucked by the greens and Bob is loving every minute of the arse fucking he is giving them.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nationa ... 6028392134

LABOR has declared its new $7.4 billion mining tax non-negotiable and blasted the Greens, who oppose the tax, as basketweavers intent on killing the "golden goose" of mining by taxing it out of existence.

But Greens leader Bob Brown has hardened his opposition to the tax plans, saying he is no "rubber stamp" and threatening to produce a private member's bill to sink the government's proposal to cap state royalties on mining.

The clash came as West Australian Premier Colin Barnett continued to reject the new mineral resources rent tax, hotly disputing Wayne Swan's claims that it would benefit his resource-rich state.

It also continues Labor's attempt to distance itself from the Greens amid opposition claims that it governs in a virtual coalition with the minor party.

In recent weeks Julia Gillard has described the Greens as extremists, recommitted to opposing their policies that support euthanasia and same-sex marriage and vowed to pursue hard economic reform in the spirit of the Hawke and Keating governments.

[mellie]

What's the point?

The EU's emissions scheme has proven to be a Kevin Rudd...(Aka Dud) given over the last two years their emissions have actually increased by 3% even with the scheme in place.


And the take home message is?

[IQS.RLOW]

This isn't about emissions or the EU.

Do try to keep up

[mellie]

This isn't about emissions or the EU.

Do try to keep up

Sorry, i'm stuffed, am seeing double vision... so am off to bed.

Night.


Oh, and just so you know...Gillards carbon-tax rolls over to an ETS in 2014/2015, as was always the plan.

Basically it's failed to reduce emissions in the EU, (they have in fact increased by 3% within two years of the thing being introduced) so what makes us think it will be a success here?

This tax will cripple our industries.

Emission may very well decrease alright, that's because there wont be any fucking industry left to excrete emissions, just creaking old abandoned factory's that once served as the corner stone of our once prosperous nations bright future.






Cheers.

[mantra]

This is the biggest problem with this government - they seem to come up with a new scheme every 5 minutes. If they had stuck to the original mining tax they had proposed - it would have achieved much of what they're aiming for and the miners would have settled down after a while.

The carbon tax is going to be the straw that breaks the camel's back. They introduced it at the wrong time and have sold it badly.

[Jovial Monk]

Oh boy, you couldn’t be more wrong about the timing, Mantra. They have 2.5 years to sell it. Rudd’s trouble was he introduced things minutes from an election.

By the time of the next election the compensation will have been in place for one year—pity the polly that tries to take it away from people.

[IQS.RLOW]

Compensation will be sweet fuck all

Here you go fools, have an extra $10/ week while everything around you skyrockets

Labor are sunk

[mellie]

Oh boy, you couldn’t be more wrong about the timing, Mantra. They have 2.5 years to sell it. Rudd’s trouble was he introduced things minutes from an election.

-Monk

This opposed to Gillards problem whereby she's dishonestly attempting to introduce it just minutes after an election?



Same dog, different spots, the overall objective hasn't changed, they just chose a different avenue, this and hoped we the drip-fed public wouldn't realise, pick-up on the fact that this carbon-tax is almost identical to the Krudds ETS flop.

It's a UN rort, so they can gain 10% of our carbon-tax revenue to fund their globalist socialist (commie) organisational tentacles, and so Labor can 'convincingly' restore a surplus after they sent us broke in less than a term at the Australian tax-payers expense.

If it were just a matter of our government needing to recover from their squandering, a GFC etc.. this and were at least up-front about why they need to impose a tax-like this to begin with, then we could almost stomach it, at least could understand the method to their tax-madness...but given they have insulted our intelligence with the condescending and dishonest save -the-planet AGW mantra, and 10% of this tax is destined for the UN's globalist commie orgs, just makes this tax-pill that little bit harder to swallow.

[mellie]

They would have done better to impose a temporary global crisis levy, (like their we are broke flood-tax) but the trouble with this is, unlike a carbon or emissions tax that just keeps giving and giving, eventually it would have had to come to an end, meaning, they would have to stop the tax as soon as we had sufficiently recovered from the GFC, and given Labor falsely bragged about their having saved us from a global recession, the recession we pretended not to have (jerk toss pull)...this would have undermined their agenda, the need to recover from what, what they claimed to have boldly rescued us from ...the GFC?
Plus, the UN wouldn't have advantaged from a temporary tax, they want their 10% cut... this and want it now.

Rudd sold our debt to China, and China also bankrolled Rudds stimulus packages and Labors campaign, and why?
....wakey wakey ...

[mellie]

Lol, the rate we're going, Abbott will have to impose a Labor recovery tax.....

This government is an absolute disgrace.

13 years out of office rendered them unpracticed fools having regressed even further than their heroic Keatings recession he said we had to have so he too could fund his ego and global commie orgs for self flagellatory purposes.

It's a vicious cycle... Libs are the mop and bucket, are who restore our economy to reasonable health then Labor come in and squander it in less than a term.

The best they had was Bob Hawke, (even if he was a commie at heart), he at least had some regard for his countrymen and was a patriot.

Hence Keating the prince of darkness knifed him the way Gillard amicably toppled Rudd...*choke*

Gillard is Keatings little princess of darkness, and Bob Hawke knows it, it's why he hates her guts.