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Re: Devastated Japan devastates Wall Street

Post by IQS.RLOW » Fri Mar 18, 2011 1:03 am

No.

Chernobyl was a runaway nuke reaction. Japan could be a meltdown and is in no way comparable despite what you want it to be
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Re: Devastated Japan devastates Wall Street

Post by Outlaw Yogi » Fri Mar 18, 2011 1:23 am

IQS.RLOW wrote:No.

Chernobyl was a runaway nuke reaction. Japan could be a meltdown and is in no way comparable despite what you want it to be
Its in every way comparable because both initiated with failure of cooling systems.
And as I've pointed out previously, every reactor employing (external) water coolant towers is prone to melt-down.

Another complication for Fukashima is the cranes used for fuel rod extractions were wiped out by the tsunami.

When ANSTO crew dropped and shattered an old fuel rod on the floor within the containment building at Lucas Heights in early 2000, it took them 6 months to build a robot to clean it up. I just hope Japanese mechatronic engineers are quicker than ANSTO's crew.

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Re: Devastated Japan devastates Wall Street

Post by IQS.RLOW » Fri Mar 18, 2011 1:37 am

Failure of cooling systems is not comparable no matter how much you want it to be
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Re: Devastated Japan devastates Wall Street

Post by Outlaw Yogi » Fri Mar 18, 2011 2:09 am

That's like draining radiators from a straight 4 and a V8 while running, and saying they blew up for different reasons.

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Re: Devastated Japan devastates Wall Street

Post by IQS.RLOW » Fri Mar 18, 2011 9:55 am

Outlaw Yogi wrote:That's like draining radiators from a straight 4 and a V8 while running, and saying they blew up for different reasons.
It's like draining the cooling system from both but you are telling me the straight 4 has just as much destructive power as the V8
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Re: Devastated Japan devastates Wall Street

Post by lisa jones » Fri Mar 18, 2011 11:50 am

IQS.RLOW wrote:No.

Chernobyl was a runaway nuke reaction. Japan could be a meltdown and is in no way comparable despite what you want it to be
They may differ in some respects .. but this morning's news is saying those TRYING TO RESOLVE THE PRESENT NUCLEAR CRISIS ON THE FRONT LINE ARE ON SUICIDE MISSIONS.
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Re: Devastated Japan devastates Wall Street

Post by lisa jones » Fri Mar 18, 2011 11:52 am

Outlaw Yogi wrote:
IQS.RLOW wrote:The comparison to Chernobyl is not valid. Three Mile Island would be closer if the situation worsens

Different reactor. Different fuel load

But don't let that stop you soaking up the fear
Its completely valid. 3 mile Is didn't breach the containment structure, Chernobyl did. At Fukushima, poor reactor design in GE's Mark 1 led to hydrogen build-up causing explosions blowing the containment structure off. Actually its potentially far worse than Chernobyl for 2 main reasons. 1st there's more reactors to contend with, and 2nd, aside from melting cores, the spent fuel pools also risk boiling dry and going pyro.

Don't kid yourself, this is the worst nuclear disaster to date.

BTW, U$A has 23 GE Mark 1 reactors in 16 locations.
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Re: Devastated Japan devastates Wall Street

Post by Outlaw Yogi » Fri Mar 18, 2011 1:14 pm

IQS.RLOW wrote:
Outlaw Yogi wrote:That's like draining radiators from a straight 4 and a V8 while running, and saying they blew up for different reasons.
It's like draining the cooling system from both but you are telling me the straight 4 has just as much destructive power as the V8
No I'm telling you both were the result of the same problem (coolant system failure) and that Fukushima is potentially far worse than Chernobyl because its bigger .... so the analogy would be Chernobyl is the straight 4 and Fukushima is the V8.

Anyway, in the event that a, or a number of Fukushima reactors cores melt, or spent fuel pools ignite, the ultimate problem is the same ... widespread Cesium 137 contamination.

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Re: Devastated Japan devastates Wall Street

Post by Outlaw Yogi » Fri Mar 18, 2011 11:52 pm

The Pacific Ocean, United States and Asia Color Topographical IR Satellite Imagery
http://www.eldoradocountyweather.com/sa ... a-sat.html

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Re: Devastated Japan devastates Wall Street

Post by lisa jones » Sat Mar 19, 2011 11:55 am

No I'm telling you both were the result of the same problem (coolant system failure) and that Fukushima is potentially far worse than Chernobyl because its bigger .... so the analogy would be Chernobyl is the straight 4 and Fukushima is the V8.

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Hmm .. thought so. It will be interesting to see what happens over the next few days.
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