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Northern Statetory

Post by Outlaw Yogi » Mon Feb 07, 2011 8:05 pm

N Territorians reckon they're good enough to be a state ... righto ... so what are they going to call/name it?

seventh state?
http://au.news.yahoo.com/latest/a/-/lat ... nth-state/

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Statehood for NT

Post by TomB » Mon Feb 07, 2011 8:10 pm

Last time it was attempted the people voted no because the pollies were trying to use the process to cement their positions in power. Looks like the same process has started again.

As far as I'm aware there's been no public consultation and no local release of an agenda yet media are reporting that the NT Govt is in Canberra canvassing support for statehood. I suspect it'll be change of govt at next election.

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Re: Northern Statetory

Post by Super Nova » Mon Feb 07, 2011 8:38 pm

What are the benefits for the NT is they become as state?

What are the benefoits for the rest of us?
Does this mean they have to stand on their own and not rely so much on Federal government support and funding?
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Re: Northern Statetory

Post by freediver » Mon Feb 07, 2011 9:20 pm

It will make the Senate even more unrepresentative of the people.

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Re: Northern Statetory

Post by TomB » Tue Feb 08, 2011 6:31 pm

Super Nova wrote:What are the benefoits for the rest of us?

None, and you don't get a say in it either. :P
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Re: Northern Statetory

Post by Neferti » Tue Feb 08, 2011 6:51 pm

TomB wrote:
Super Nova wrote:What are the benefoits for the rest of us?

None, and you don't get a say in it either. :P
I feel compelled to reply. :mrgreen: Unless you live in Darwin or are "indigenous" who cares?

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Re: Northern Statetory

Post by Super Nova » Tue Feb 08, 2011 6:59 pm

Neferti~ wrote:
TomB wrote:
Super Nova wrote:What are the benefoits for the rest of us?

None, and you don't get a say in it either. :P
I feel compelled to reply. :mrgreen: Unless you live in Darwin or are "indigenous" who cares?
I don't really care but I wondered what the impact on the rest of us would be.

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It will make the Senate even more unrepresentative of the people.
Is a concern.

Is the senate proportional representation?
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Re: Northern Statetory

Post by Outlaw Yogi » Tue Feb 08, 2011 7:03 pm

Super Nova wrote:
Is the senate proportional representation?
Yes.

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Re: Northern Statetory

Post by Neferti » Tue Feb 08, 2011 7:14 pm

I don't really care but I wondered what the impact on the rest of us would be.

The NT and ACT have lesser "votes" and can be over-ridden by the Commonwealth Government. So "Self Government" is a crock of shit.

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Re: Northern Statetory

Post by freediver » Tue Feb 08, 2011 9:20 pm

Is the senate proportional representation?
Sort of. Within each state it is, but there are only six senators elected each cycle so you can get 15% of the vote and still not get a seat. The Greens were in this situation for a long time before they broke through in most states.

Once you consider that each state has vastly different populations, it is not proportional representation nationally. Those in smaller states get a much bigger say in federal government.

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