Ukraine is in trouble

[tllwd]

Hi Tallo -the losses are all top secret but anyway -

what were the Russian losses?

Few independent sources agree on 1 to 10 ratio Ru to UA, I have posted links and explanation how it is counted on ozpolitic.

[tllwd]

Results for November 14, 2024:

· In Sumy Oblast, the Russian army has confirmed control over the village of Lukashovka. The settlement was probably taken to facilitate the defense of the state border, since it allows for the construction of a defense along the river and the securing of one of the roads to Belgorod.
· South of Chasov Yar, the Russian Armed Forces have completely driven the Ukrainian Armed Forces beyond the Canal.
· North of Kurakhovo, the village of Voznesenka has been liberated. To the south, the Russian Armed Forces have advanced near the village of Maksimovka
· Novomikhaylovka - Antonovka Active hostilities in the Novomikhaylovka area. Attack of the Russian Armed Forces in the village of Antonovka by infantry units. Clearing the residential sector of the village. Servicemen of the Russian Armed Forces demonstrate the flag of the Russian Federation in the western part of the village, confirming the confident control of the village by the Russian Armed Forces.

AFU loss:

Personnel – 2025
Armored vehicles – 20, including:
Tank – 4
BBM – 11 (including 5 “Kazak” and 1 “Kirpi”)
BMP – 3 (including 1 “Marder”)
APC – 2 (including 1 “M113”)
Auto – 45
Art – 17, including:
SPG “Gvozdika” – 1
SPG “AS-90” “Braveheart” – 1
SPG “Krab” – 1
D-20 – 2
D-30 – 6
Msta-B – 2
M119 – 1
M777 – 2
MLRS “RAK-SA-12” – 1
EW station “Anklav-N” – 2
EW stations “Anklav-N” and "Kvertus" - 4 (this is from the Oskol direction, the exact number of each model of electronic warfare is not clear from the report)
Signal-Electronic Reconnaissance Station "Plastun" - 2
Infrastructure of military airfields and energy facilities supporting the operation of enterprises of the military-industrial complex of Ukraine was damaged
Field ammunition depot - 3
Ammunition depot - 2
HIMARS (RS) - 6
UAV - 78

[Bobby]

Hi Tallo -the losses are all top secret but anyway -

what were the Russian losses?

Few independent sources agree on 1 to 10 ratio Ru to UA, I have posted links and explanation how it is counted on ozpolitic.

You are repeating Russian propaganda.

[tllwd]

Bobby, why are you so butthurt if you believe that this AFU losses is "Russian propaganda"?

[Bobby]

Bobby, why are you so butthurt if you believe that this AFU losses is "Russian propaganda"?

Tanks have been destroyed on both sides and many soldiers have died.
It's sickening.

[tllwd]

Bobby, why are you so butthurt if you believe that this AFU losses is "Russian propaganda"?

Tanks have been destroyed on both sides and many soldiers have died.
It's sickening.

That wasn't a tank but armored infantry transport, reported AFU casualty was14 soldiers, 2 stayed alive by dropping weapons and giving themselves up.

and yes, war is hell.

[Jasin]

Russia is heavily influenced by the cheap mass production style (as is India) of outnumbering your opponent. Rarely in Russian war history is it, that a lesser number of Russians beating the enemy. Pavlov's 29 is a good movie to watch regarding this.
Russia got the territory it wanted from Finland, but it paid a far heavier price than the Fins to achieve it.
Again, it adopts the same tactics against Ukraine: life is cheap.
Thus Russia is just throwing it's dated stuff against Ukraine.
Sensible in a way, if your soldiers are many and expendable.

Drones and hand held rocket launchers have shown how near obsolete Tanks and other such machines are as effective.
Both World Ward had Artillery bombardment as the majority, with tank and soldier confrontations much less so.

Modern Military has become afraid of hand to hand combat literally. Soldiers now dig their graves and hide from the 'Machines', but now even that compromises them. For Drones can even reach them, no matter where they hide and now that dark of night reveals them just as much as day.
Terminators will rise: Man v Machine.

Did you see much close combat in Iraq war?
USA basically used 90% air and artillery attack while infantry just cleaned up the slops.

[tllwd]

used 90% air and artillery attack while infantry just cleaned up the slops

That is Russian tactics now and result is 1 Russian for 10 opponents (Ukrainians and foreign mercs), learning fast = better survival.

[Bobby]

Russia is heavily influenced by the cheap mass production style (as is India) of outnumbering your opponent. Rarely in Russian war history is it, that a lesser number of Russians beating the enemy. Pavlov's 29 is a good movie to watch regarding this.
Russia got the territory it wanted from Finland, but it paid a far heavier price than the Fins to achieve it.
Again, it adopts the same tactics against Ukraine: life is cheap.
Thus Russia is just throwing it's dated stuff against Ukraine.
Sensible in a way, if your soldiers are many and expendable.

Drones and hand held rocket launchers have shown how near obsolete Tanks and other such machines are as effective.
Both World Ward had Artillery bombardment as the majority, with tank and soldier confrontations much less so.

Modern Military has become afraid of hand to hand combat literally. Soldiers now dig their graves and hide from the 'Machines', but now even that compromises them. For Drones can even reach them, no matter where they hide and now that dark of night reveals them just as much as day.
Terminators will rise: Man v Machine.

Did you see much close combat in Iraq war?
USA basically used 90% air and artillery attack while infantry just cleaned up the slops.

It's a war of meat wave attacks -

terrible.

[Jasin]

Well Tllwd. It is ex Soviet v ex Soviet afterall. Maybe Ukraine treats it's troops the same way? Maybe Russia just has a superior bombardment aspect.
I do know that the majority of Russian troops are not fully equipped, while some like Wagner, are exceptionally equipped. From what I saw during my thankfully short stay (for work). Ukrainians are well equipped with the modern gimmicks. But I was nowhere near the front lines, where it might be a different story. Though I was told often, that they too had the latest bells and whistles. This contradicted the fact that I was often told also that the Soldiers were in short supply of everything, even soldiers. The poverty there is incredible. Men return back from the front for leave and well, the abuse on their women is disgusting. Savages fighting savages. That's what the war is there.