Are Races Equal?

[Bobby]

I know science has proved that all men and women are equal.

Really -
why didn't any women get into the boxing ring with Mike Tyson?

you moron, you really take stupidity to a whole new level

why don't YOU get in the ring with Mike Tyson?

That's not the point you cock smoker.

[J o h n S m i t h]

I know science has proved that all men and women are equal.

Really -
why didn't any women get into the boxing ring with Mike Tyson?

you moron, you really take stupidity to a whole new level

why don't YOU get in the ring with Mike Tyson?

That's not the point you cock smoker.

Is that because you're a woman?

[Aussie]

Stay on the Topic please.

[Bogan]

Okay, well it looks like Brian Ross is MIA again and I can't ream him out (my favorites sport), so let's summarise so far.

Evolution teaches us that in physical abilities alone, human races can not be equal. This is because each race evolved separately within widely differing environments and the glaring differences in physical appearances of human races that resulted, were the result of evolutionary adaptations to give each individual race an advantage over other races within the particular and very dissimilar environments that each evolved in.

Without even needing science, the proof is self evident.

I have displayed that within all species there are sub species that have evolved away from an original species because of environmental adaptation. These sub species can still breed with each other even though they may look markedly different from each other and behave different. They can still breed with each other to create fertile hybrid offspring. Most people can appreciate that within animal species, different breeds of animals within a species can vary greatly in intelligence and personality. There is no reason to suppose that human breeds are different.

Despite the nonsense from some who claim without any proof at all that races are equal, the claim that science does not recognise race is a complete lie. Anthropologists are scientists who scientifically study humans and their customs, beliefs, and relationships. Leaving aside the fact that this often means tracing the historical wanderings of particular races, their work often involves unearthing the graves of long dead people and figuring out who or what they were through the examination of skeletons. Forensic anthropologists are scientists who identify the race, sex, and probable age of suspected murder victims by examining the physical differences of human skeletons. Science categorises everything. Rocks, meteorites, volcanoes, fish, birds, reptiles, planets, stars, you name it. But those who claim that races are equal are claiming that science never categorises human beings. Bullshit.

I have displayed that there is a clear contradiction in the thinking of those who claim that "there is only one race, the human race" in that they loudly claim that race does not exist when it is convenient to do so. But since their leftist ideology usually consists of defending the dysfunctional and crime prone races by claiming that their behaviour is all the fault of the white race "oppressors", then self evidently their claim is false.

I have displayed how full blooded aboriginal people undeniably have very low intelligence by the simple expedient of displaying their completely unacceptable behaviour within their own communities. Anybody who read my post on this, submitted twice on this topic, and who still claims that full blooded aboriginal people have equal intelligence bell curves with other races, like whites and Asians, must be aboriginal themselves.

I have pointed out that the dysfunctional ethnicities within western societies who blame their inequality on white racism, are just as dysfunctional in their own home countries, or within their own communities.

I have submitted that a real scientific work, the book "The Bell Curve" written by scientists who are cognitive matriclans, accurately measured the IQ's of different races in the USA and found that their bell curves of intelligence did not match. The authors fond that Jews were the smartest race with an average IQ of 115, Asians 106, whites 103, Hispanics 93, and African Americans in the range of 70 to 85.

That this equates almost exactly to the social stratering of US society is hardly a coincidence. Most people who possess average intelligence and who's brains have not been debilitated by humanist brainwashing, would agree that in western societies, generally, the smartest are at the top and the dumbest are at the bottom. Smart people in the lowest echelons of society usually move socially upwards, if only into the working class. The only qualifications needed to achieve that feat is a near average IQ and a work ethic.

"Bobby" has also helpfully submitted evidence on this topic that clearly displayed the low IQ of US ghetto blacks and their behaviour.

I have also submitted that the very high rates of criminal behaviour exhibited by certain dysfunctional races is probably the result of a genetic proneness to violent behaviour. Science and even the courts recognise that some people are just born violent. The Australian Institute of Criminology even admits that there is "compelling" evidence that genetics is a factor in crime. But you don't need to be a scientist to figure that out. That around 95% of prison inmates in every country on planet earth are males is very convincing evidence that genetics is a strong factor in criminal behaviour.

So is low intelligence. If the same dysfunctional ethnicities are a crime and welfare problem in every western society around the world that they inhabit, and these ethnicities are known to have a generally low bell curve IQ spread, then I think it is conclusive that for some races and ethnicities, most of them are simply unsuitable for immigration into advanced western societies.

[Nom De Plume]

Many prevailing theories of intelligence suggest that people with lower IQs are the ones most likely to break the law, since impulsivity, struggles at school, lack of social bonding, and lack of foresight are all linked to criminality. In comparison, intelligent people have traditionally been seen as less likely to commit crimes, and this view of brainpower as a protective factor against offending has been bolstered by many studies over the decades. But there may be an IQ threshold after which a high IQ becomes more of a risk factor.

Indeed, Oleson’s high-IQ group reported higher crime rates, compared to the control group, for 50 of the 72 types of crime surveyed. These included minor offenses such as trespassing and copyright violations, but also serious crimes such as arson, fraud, and kidnapping. The high-IQ offenders were also more likely to get away with their crimes, with significantly fewer convictions per reported offense.

https://qz.com/923648/why-do-highly-int ... it-crimes/

And then there is 'white collar crime' that is beyond the majority of people to understand and for those that engage within, get away with...

The cost of the crimes covered here amounts to $19 billion. Other costs (such as policing, prisons and the security industry) add nearly another $13 billion. The total estimated bill is nearly $32 billion per year. Fraud is the most costly crime, followed by violent crime (homicide, assault and sexual assault) and burglary.
https://www.aic.gov.au/publications/tandi/tandi247

https://scamsonline.org/real-african-sc ... arch-2021/
The link above shows Africans displaying the financial spoils of their fraudulent endeavors. These fraudsters target wealthy western nations... yet you would claim that they are too stupid to pull off such an operation.

BUMP FOR BOGAN

[Aussie]

What is the currency by which this 'equality' on 'non equality' is measured?

Is it limited to 'intelligence?'

[Bogan]

Wonderful Nom De Plume. Instead of writing a reasoned argument saying why you think that all races are equal, you just find some little part of my position that you can focus on and get some mileage out of, and go with that. You have found an article from somewhere which says that there are high IQ criminals, and you think that this somehow negates my position that that low IQ is a significant factor in criminal behaviour? Your reasoning seems to be, that if you can find one little aspect of my whole argument which you can cast doubt upon, you can cast doubt upon everything I write.

Ya know what, Nom? I like submitting this topic on debate sites from around the world because the reactions of my opponents are pretty predictable. The one thing my opponents always never do, is they will rarely submit a reasoned argument saying why they think that races are equal. You are a prime example of that. And you know why they do that Nom? Because they have no idea themselves why they think that way. Some of them who are trying to be honest, make a half hearted attempt, but it is always a short argument and pretty woeful. Others totally refuse to do it, no matter how many times I demand it. I presume that these types know as well as I do that races are not equal, but they have ulterior motives for denying the obvious.

The funniest thing about submitting this topic is that it is just so screamingly obvious that races are not equal. Just a bit of critical thinking is all it takes to come to the obvious conclusion. It is exactly like debating against Creationists. No amount of fact or reasoned argument will ever make them change their minds. Creationists may be quite smart and successful in life, but their brains have a mental barrier within them, past which they dare not cross. So they come out with the most wacky explanations for their beliefs and stubbornly refuse to acknowledge the most self evident facts.

People who refuse to see what is right before their eyes and acknowledge that races are not equal, seem to have this same mental barrier. They have been told for so long that races are equal, probably when they were very young, that they have never questioned it. They have internalised it as Absolute Truth and never look critically at it again. Part of the reason for that is because if they ever began to DOUBT, they would be denounced by so many prominent people, maybe even their own friends, as a RACIST. And that is a fate worse than death.

So you keep your ideological blinkers on and never question the party line. As well as the Stick, the clever lefties who dreamed up this easily seen through fable for their own self aggrandisement, even give people like you a Carrot. They tell you over and over, that "intelligent" people KNOW that races are equal, and only Deplorable cretins think otherwise. And you want people to think you are smart, don't you, Nom? So once again, you keep to the party line and never question what the self aggrandizing lefties, who hate you, your country, your culture, and your civilisation, tell you is a fact.

They have you house trained, girlie.

If you really think that you are intelligent, then I double dog dare you to read back to my post on the behaviour of aboriginal people within their own communities.

I will even post it up for you again.

If there was a country town in Australia completely populated by white Anglo Saxons, and in that town, there were 23 year old grandmothers with grandchildren born with foetal alcohol syndrome. And, there was rampant sexual abuse of children with kids under five being routinely screened for gonorrhoea. And, the women in the town alleged widespread sexual abuse committed upon them by the town's male leaders. And, these women were 34 times more likely to be hospitalised for domestic violence and 15 times more likely to be murdered than the women in surrounding towns.

And, the entire adult population of that white town was entirely on intergenerational social welfare, and every two weeks when the government cheques rolled in, the whole town went on a three day drinking binge resulting in widespread violence and even riots where government supplied houses were burned to the ground.

And, the town's children suffered from lice and ringworm. The kids would not go to school, and the government had to bribe parents with extra benefits to make their kids go to school. And, in addition, the government had to provide cars and chauffeurs to take the kids to school and feed the kids, because their parents didn't bother. These kids were five times more likely to be hospitalised for domestic assaults than the kids from surrounding towns.

And, the only way that jobs could be created for the town's residents was to either make them public servants or by inventing taxpayer subsidised non jobs like picking up trash if they felt like it. And, when their young men were farmed out to government subsidised jobs outside of their community, most had to be sent back because 75% of them failed drug and alcohol testing.

Then, Mr Super Nova, I don't think you would have any trouble at all in recognising all of the inhabitants of that town as a bunch of low IQ morons, commonly referred to as white trash.

Read my submission to Super Nova with a totally objective mind. That is really what intelligent people do. When things they are told do not make sense, and they really want to know if they are being lied to, they discount all external biases and critically examine the facts. If you do that and read my submission, and prove that you have brains, and you can not figure out that it is screamingly obvious that pure blooded aboriginal people must have very low intelligence, then there is really something wrong with your critical analysis circuits and your ability to reason.

[BigP]

Not too many Muhammad Gates. Ellison or Musks out there

[Bogan]

To non de plume.

You are implying that there is no causal link between IQ and crime? Good luck with that premise. Most people can easily understand that people with high IQ are far less likely to engage in criminal behaviour than people with low IQ. Low IQ felons exist with rap sheets pages long and they are habitual criminals. That rarely happens with high IQ criminals who may commit crimes such as fraud, because such behaviour would preclude them forever from ever working in an industry requiring trust with large amounts of other people's money.

I know that you want to believe with all your heart that crime and ethnicity, and low intelligence, are not linked. But unfortunately for you, they are. Most people with a brain can clearly see the connection after they put aside their prejudices and start thinking critically.

People with low IQ inhabit the lowest class within every advanced society, even in so called "classless" socialist societies. Some people in the lowest class may have become one of that class because of circumstances (financial collapse or serious injury) but people in the lowest class who have brains are always upwardly mobile, if only into the working class, which is societies largest class. Any impartial person can easily understand that.

Serious violent criminal behaviour is concentrated within the lowest class, where generally speaking, there are the most people with low IQ. Which is why these ghetto areas become cesspits of crime and no go areas for productive, intelligent people. Smart people get the hell out. The people who inhabit the lowest class often have no moral compass at all and they are societies most crime prone group. In the USA, half of all African males between the ages of 18 and 50 are either in jail or on parole. It is hardly surprising that US Africans have a most measured IQ of between 70 and 85, depending upon ethnicity, with west coast Africans smarter than east coast Africans.

The examples you gave of smart criminals is an aberration. Smart criminals do exist but not to anywhere near the same degree as dumb criminals.

[BigP]

To non de plume.

You are implying that there is no causal link between IQ and crime? Good luck with that premise. Most people can easily understand that people with high IQ are far less likely to engage in criminal behaviour than people with low IQ. Low IQ felons exist with rap sheets pages long and they are habitual criminals. That rarely happens with high IQ criminals who may commit crimes such as fraud, because such behaviour would preclude them forever from ever working in an industry requiring trust with large amounts of other people's money.

I know that you want to believe with all your heart that crime and ethnicity, and low intelligence, are not linked. But unfortunately for you, they are. Most people with a brain can clearly see the connection after they put aside their prejudices and start thinking critically.

People with low IQ inhabit the lowest class within every advanced society, even in so called "classless" socialist societies. Some people in the lowest class may have become one of that class because of circumstances (financial collapse or serious injury) but people in the lowest class who have brains are always upwardly mobile, if only into the working class, which is societies largest class. Any impartial person can easily understand that.

Serious violent criminal behaviour is concentrated within the lowest class, where generally speaking, there are the most people with low IQ. Which is why these ghetto areas become cesspits of crime and no go areas for productive, intelligent people. Smart people get the hell out. The people who inhabit the lowest class often have no moral compass at all and they are societies most crime prone group. In the USA, half of all African males between the ages of 18 and 50 are either in jail or on parole. It is hardly surprising that US Africans have a most measured IQ of between 70 and 85, depending upon ethnicity, with west coast Africans smarter than east coast Africans.

The examples you gave of smart criminals is an aberration. Smart criminals do exist but not to anywhere near the same degree as dumb criminals.

The stats are undeniable