Antifa/BLM riots

[billy the kid]

I'm not being hypocritical. You brought up Noor and he is a direct product of Democrat retardation with favouring minorities purely because they are minorities. We are doing that here as well.

I have 2 sons who grew up in a different time to what I did. Once cops had to be 6' tall and have integrity and intellect. Now not so much. I don't know about out of state or country cops but many Sydney cops are barely 5' tall and carry highly aggressive and very unreasonable attitudes.

One of my kids crashed his motor bike a few years ago. It was late at night and no-one else was on the road. He banged himself up pretty badly and I went and picked him up and left the bike on the side of the road to be collected later. He was banged up and in shock and then 2 cops banged on the door. One was ok but the short ass in charge was an absolute pig. No other word for him!

Kept bullying my son and threatening to charge him. For what? For falling off his bike with no-one else around?

Both have seen the very bad side of Sydney cops and both would act with deference when pulled over, which I suppose you could translate into fear, because you just never know what these cops are going to do. When my youngest was in high school they used to go to the local shops after school to meet. They didn't cause trouble but were constantly targeted by the local police just for something to do. The cops would search them and make them take off their shoes and socks in case they had some weed. The cops were aggressive and nasty and didn't find any weed but that didn't stop them from bullying and targeting the kids over and over.

So I suspect many young Australians are scared of our cops too.

There are none so blind ...

Your connotation suggests that I am ignorant and deluded...

[Black Orchid]

My 'connotation' said nothing at all of the sort. You do seem pretty touchy today though! You've called me, and others, a few names today and I/they haven't retaliated. *shrug*

[billy the kid]

Im just stirring in a forum which seems to be on its last legs....

[Black Orchid]

Well maybe Red is right and I need to be kicked out or just move on. I've brought a lot of people here, including yourself, but I can't make them post and I've lost quite a few through abuse.

To be honest I just don't give a stuff anymore.

[Texan]

This suggests that when you are pulled over...you are scared.....
WHY??

Why do you think I am scared? I understand that the cop can be nervous in these situations and I do everything I can to make him comfortable as a precaution to avoid conflict. Writing citations on the side of the highway can be dangerous for the cop and with me having a gun(legally), I want to be as upfront and honest as possible without incriminating myself in any way. You don't argue your way out of tickets on the side of the road. That can only lead to bad things. You argue in court if you think you have an argument.

Sorry...I thought you might be scared because all over the USA people get killed by cops...
Oh and if everyone is carrying guns....well...maybe that's going to happen...
Why is it necessary for you to make the cop feel comfortable...
To avoid conflict...you say...
You say you keep your hands on the wheel...is that because people are shot dead in the US at traffic stops
because the "uncomfortable" cop suddenly decided to shoot....
Did you read about Justine Diamond and Mohammed Noor...
Gimme a break.....

You just made my case. Justine unwittingly sneaked up on the police and startled them. The cop was obviously a social hire and not suited for the job and he grossly overreacted. If a cop is approaching me on the side of the highway and I suddenly reach for my back pocket, should he be startled enough to draw his weapon? I'm recognizing the situation and proactively putting the cop at ease for both of our benefits by having my papers ready and not making threatening moves. It's common sense and I have taught this to my sons. I've demonstrated this behavior in front of them multiple times. They aren't immune to being killed by cops either.

Bullshit...youre just making excuse for callous, poorly trained cops...
Youre scared when a cop pulls you over...but wont admit it.....
America is full of trigger happy cops and you know it....

On what do you base your daft opinion of American cops? I've lived here for 53 years and have never been frightened by an aggressive cop. You must be buying the hype that our leftist media is dishing out to cause unrest. Just because you can make accusations doesn't mean that they are true. I have many friends who are cops and former cops. My cousin is a police investigator for a Texas county sheriff's office and also works for the BATFE. How many American cops do you know?

[billy the kid]

Why do you think I am scared? I understand that the cop can be nervous in these situations and I do everything I can to make him comfortable as a precaution to avoid conflict. Writing citations on the side of the highway can be dangerous for the cop and with me having a gun(legally), I want to be as upfront and honest as possible without incriminating myself in any way. You don't argue your way out of tickets on the side of the road. That can only lead to bad things. You argue in court if you think you have an argument.

Sorry...I thought you might be scared because all over the USA people get killed by cops...
Oh and if everyone is carrying guns....well...maybe that's going to happen...
Why is it necessary for you to make the cop feel comfortable...
To avoid conflict...you say...
You say you keep your hands on the wheel...is that because people are shot dead in the US at traffic stops
because the "uncomfortable" cop suddenly decided to shoot....
Did you read about Justine Diamond and Mohammed Noor...
Gimme a break.....

You just made my case. Justine unwittingly sneaked up on the police and startled them. The cop was obviously a social hire and not suited for the job and he grossly overreacted. If a cop is approaching me on the side of the highway and I suddenly reach for my back pocket, should he be startled enough to draw his weapon? I'm recognizing the situation and proactively putting the cop at ease for both of our benefits by having my papers ready and not making threatening moves. It's common sense and I have taught this to my sons. I've demonstrated this behavior in front of them multiple times. They aren't immune to being killed by cops either.

Bullshit...youre just making excuse for callous, poorly trained cops...
Youre scared when a cop pulls you over...but wont admit it.....
America is full of trigger happy cops and you know it....

On what do you base your daft opinion of American cops? I've lived here for 53 years and have never been frightened by an aggressive cop. You must be buying the hype that our leftist media is dishing out to cause unrest. Just because you can make accusations doesn't mean that they are true. I have many friends who are cops and former cops. My cousin is a police investigator for a Texas county sheriff's office and also works for the BATFE. How many American cops do you know?

Youre being a bit hypocritical aren't you...
You stated earlier that you have gone to great lengths to tell your sons how to behave when a copy pulls them over.
Why is that necessary Tex....
In a violent country like the USA, when every second cop could be trigger happy...why is it necessary for you
to deliberately instruct your sons how to behave when confronted by a cop...
Could it be that you are worried that an aggressive cop might kill or injure one of your sons....
Maybe your beloved Texas has no aggressive cops...maybe they are all in other states...
I know of no American cops...but I know of family members, and friends of family members who have
travelled to the USA as tourists and they returned with negative opinions of US cops....
AND they all travelled in many states...not just one or two...
On another topic, perhaps you might like to comment on the suggestion that some US states
have their cops trained in Israel...as they do in Minnesota....
Why is that necessary...some states...I said...some other states appear to decline that necessity...
Where does Texas stand on the training of cops in Israel...
AND no, I don't buy the leftist media...I don't buy any media crap..left or right...

[Texan]

Sorry...I thought you might be scared because all over the USA people get killed by cops...
Oh and if everyone is carrying guns....well...maybe that's going to happen...
Why is it necessary for you to make the cop feel comfortable...
To avoid conflict...you say...
You say you keep your hands on the wheel...is that because people are shot dead in the US at traffic stops
because the "uncomfortable" cop suddenly decided to shoot....
Did you read about Justine Diamond and Mohammed Noor...
Gimme a break.....

You just made my case. Justine unwittingly sneaked up on the police and startled them. The cop was obviously a social hire and not suited for the job and he grossly overreacted. If a cop is approaching me on the side of the highway and I suddenly reach for my back pocket, should he be startled enough to draw his weapon? I'm recognizing the situation and proactively putting the cop at ease for both of our benefits by having my papers ready and not making threatening moves. It's common sense and I have taught this to my sons. I've demonstrated this behavior in front of them multiple times. They aren't immune to being killed by cops either.

Bullshit...youre just making excuse for callous, poorly trained cops...
Youre scared when a cop pulls you over...but wont admit it.....
America is full of trigger happy cops and you know it....

On what do you base your daft opinion of American cops? I've lived here for 53 years and have never been frightened by an aggressive cop. You must be buying the hype that our leftist media is dishing out to cause unrest. Just because you can make accusations doesn't mean that they are true. I have many friends who are cops and former cops. My cousin is a police investigator for a Texas county sheriff's office and also works for the BATFE. How many American cops do you know?

Youre being a bit hypocritical aren't you...
You stated earlier that you have gone to great lengths to tell your sons how to behave when a copy pulls them over.
Why is that necessary Tex....
In a violent country like the USA, when every second cop could be trigger happy...why is it necessary for you
to deliberately instruct your sons how to behave when confronted by a cop...
Could it be that you are worried that an aggressive cop might kill or injure one of your sons....
Maybe your beloved Texas has no aggressive cops...maybe they are all in other states...
I know of no American cops...but I know of family members, and friends of family members who have
travelled to the USA as tourists and they returned with negative opinions of US cops....
AND they all travelled in many states...not just one or two...
On another topic, perhaps you might like to comment on the suggestion that some US states
have their cops trained in Israel...as they do in Minnesota....
Why is that necessary...some states...I said...some other states appear to decline that necessity...
Where does Texas stand on the training of cops in Israel...
AND no, I don't buy the leftist media...I don't buy any media crap..left or right...

I learned how to operate most guns.

I keep my insurance current.

I learn to do as much maintenance as possible on my cars and home.

I don't drink and drive. I hardly ever drink at all.

I try very hard to not insult people or start arguments. It's not worth the trouble and nothing good ever comes of it. Does that make me a coward?

I don't play with snakes, even though I have found 2 on my back patio in the last 2 nights. One was no threat and I relocated him. I wasn't positive about the second, so I killed it and threw it over the back fence

We do many things out of caution or wisdom. Just because you don't agree with it doesn't make me a coward or whatever motive you want to hang around my neck. You train your cops wherever you want and we'll do the same. Since all cops are maladjusted violent meatheads because a few cops have crossed the line(and been tried for it), then all protesters must be murderous vandals, looters, and arsonists. Is that your logic?

[billy the kid]

You just made my case. Justine unwittingly sneaked up on the police and startled them. The cop was obviously a social hire and not suited for the job and he grossly overreacted. If a cop is approaching me on the side of the highway and I suddenly reach for my back pocket, should he be startled enough to draw his weapon? I'm recognizing the situation and proactively putting the cop at ease for both of our benefits by having my papers ready and not making threatening moves. It's common sense and I have taught this to my sons. I've demonstrated this behavior in front of them multiple times. They aren't immune to being killed by cops either.

Bullshit...youre just making excuse for callous, poorly trained cops...
Youre scared when a cop pulls you over...but wont admit it.....
America is full of trigger happy cops and you know it....

On what do you base your daft opinion of American cops? I've lived here for 53 years and have never been frightened by an aggressive cop. You must be buying the hype that our leftist media is dishing out to cause unrest. Just because you can make accusations doesn't mean that they are true. I have many friends who are cops and former cops. My cousin is a police investigator for a Texas county sheriff's office and also works for the BATFE. How many American cops do you know?

Youre being a bit hypocritical aren't you...
You stated earlier that you have gone to great lengths to tell your sons how to behave when a copy pulls them over.
Why is that necessary Tex....
In a violent country like the USA, when every second cop could be trigger happy...why is it necessary for you
to deliberately instruct your sons how to behave when confronted by a cop...
Could it be that you are worried that an aggressive cop might kill or injure one of your sons....
Maybe your beloved Texas has no aggressive cops...maybe they are all in other states...
I know of no American cops...but I know of family members, and friends of family members who have
travelled to the USA as tourists and they returned with negative opinions of US cops....
AND they all travelled in many states...not just one or two...
On another topic, perhaps you might like to comment on the suggestion that some US states
have their cops trained in Israel...as they do in Minnesota....
Why is that necessary...some states...I said...some other states appear to decline that necessity...
Where does Texas stand on the training of cops in Israel...
AND no, I don't buy the leftist media...I don't buy any media crap..left or right...

I learned how to operate most guns.

I keep my insurance current.

I learn to do as much maintenance as possible on my cars and home.

I don't drink and drive. I hardly ever drink at all.

I try very hard to not insult people or start arguments. It's not worth the trouble and nothing good ever comes of it. Does that make me a coward?

I don't play with snakes, even though I have found 2 on my back patio in the last 2 nights. One was no threat and I relocated him. I wasn't positive about the second, so I killed it and threw it over the back fence

We do many things out of caution or wisdom. Just because you don't agree with it doesn't make me a coward or whatever motive you want to hang around my neck. You train your cops wherever you want and we'll do the same. Since all cops are maladjusted violent meatheads because a few cops have crossed the line(and been tried for it), then all protesters must be murderous vandals, looters, and arsonists. Is that your logic?

Why all the strawmen....
I simply suggested originally that you, as a driver of a motor vehicle in Texas could...just could... be
more than worried...maybe scared...if a cop pulled you over.....I didn't call you a coward...
I am not attempting to hang anything around your neck....
All Im suggesting is that you, as a driver of a motor vehicle in Texas are behaving in an extremely
cautious manner when you are pulled over by Police..
Maybe I used the wrong word...perhaps I should have said "anxious"...
Anxiety is a fear of the unknown....a worry or nervousness or unease about something with an uncertain
outcome....
Are we as drivers, anxious when we are pulled over by cops....
Of course we are...
BUT in the US...maybe a little more anxious....

[Black Orchid]

43% of all cops murdered in the US are killed by blacks. 3% of the entire US population commit 70% of the violent crimes and those 3% are black. That's not being racist it's just a fact.

The demographic is different here and so is the dynamic. Democrat state/cities are the worst. Democrat run states allowed this rioting and looting to happen. They made the cops stand down and now they are demanding federal funding to fix the mess they allowed to happen. They spend their money on paying illegals, letting criminals out of jail to continue to wreak havoc, refuse to co-operate with federal law enforcement and now want a handout. These Dem states even set a limit as to how much you could loot without being arrested. I mean WTF? Look at the source. Democrats! I would tell them to bugger off and I hope Trump does too.

We don't have that here, we don't have totally idiotic sanctuary cities to shelter illegals, and I still think that most of the younger generation here are 'anxious' when pulled over by a cop for no apparent reason.

All in all it depends where you live. Pretty much the same as it does here but to a much lesser extent here.

[Black Orchid]

It was only a few years ago that you took your life in your hands here if you went to Redfern. They moved the Abos out though and gentrified the area.

Now it can be dangerous as hell to go near places like Auburn, Lakemba etc unless you hide under a burka.

Just imagine if we had 350 million people here? Australia and the US are a similar size.