Trump supporter beaten up.

[brian ross]

It's really hard to defend any position when you talk in absolute terms. Even if you're right, someone throws an exception in your face. Sometimes your family becomes the exception. You never know.

Everyone has biases concerning race, even mixed race people. Stereotypes exist for a reason.

In America perhaps, Tex. However, outside the USA, where Racism isn't as entrenched?

Don't kid yourself. Everybody has biases based on race.

I don't. I have no biases based on "race" because I know that the concept of "race" has no scientific basis and is purely a social construct, Tex. There is no "race" in Genetics. All you are doing is reacting to the amount of melanin that an individual has in their skin or the shape of a person's eyes. etc. These are just evironmental adaptations to local conditions where the individual's ancestors evolved.

I've made the same argument myself but you know how the word is used.

Yes I do. However, I don't accept it's use the way that Racists use the word.

[Texan]

In America perhaps, Tex. However, outside the USA, where Racism isn't as entrenched?

Don't kid yourself. Everybody has biases based on race.

I don't. I have no biases based on "race" because I know that the concept of "race" has no scientific basis and is purely a social construct, Tex. There is no "race" in Genetics. All you are doing is reacting to the amount of melanin that an individual has in their skin or the shape of a person's eyes. etc. These are just evironmental adaptations to local conditions where the individual's ancestors evolved.

I've made the same argument myself but you know how the word is used.

Yes I do. However, I don't accept it's use the way that Racists use the word.

Racist is a relative term.

[Bobby]

Don't kid yourself. Everybody has biases based on race.

I don't. I have no biases based on "race" because I know that the concept of "race" has no scientific basis and is purely a social construct, Tex. There is no "race" in Genetics. All you are doing is reacting to the amount of melanin that an individual has in their skin or the shape of a person's eyes. etc. These are just evironmental adaptations to local conditions where the individual's ancestors evolved.

I've made the same argument myself but you know how the word is used.

Yes I do. However, I don't accept it's use the way that Racists use the word.

Racist is a relative term.

dear Texan,
Did you see and hear what happened to one of your own - in your own country?

https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/statu ... 8721094661


A young kid bashed by blacks and put into hospital.

[Texan]

I don't. I have no biases based on "race" because I know that the concept of "race" has no scientific basis and is purely a social construct, Tex. There is no "race" in Genetics. All you are doing is reacting to the amount of melanin that an individual has in their skin or the shape of a person's eyes. etc. These are just evironmental adaptations to local conditions where the individual's ancestors evolved.

I've made the same argument myself but you know how the word is used.

Yes I do. However, I don't accept it's use the way that Racists use the word.

Racist is a relative term.

dear Texan,
Did you see and hear what happened to one of your own - in your own country?

https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/statu ... 8721094661


A young kid bashed by blacks and put into hospital.

I saw it. I hope the law comes down hard on them and I hope the kid can sue all parties involved (including the school district and bus company if a separate entity) and get a very good college education out of this situation. I didn't see what led up to the attack, but with 5 on 1 it doesn't matter much. This will keep happening until the law loses their bias and prosecutes all races equally and based on the actions of the individual.

[Bogan]

Briney wrote

I am sure you wish it was, Bogan. Science however does not lie. Genetics does not line. Genetics cannot find any single gene or group of genes which are associated with the concept of "race" as used by you. Genetics shows that we all share the same genetic pool and therefore can interbreed with one another. There is only one species - humanity - homo sapien sapiens. You are genetically identical with a Black African, an Indigenous Australian, a Native American and every other human on this planet, Bogan. Time you faced up to that reality and accepted it. "Race" as you use the term is purely a social construct, nothing more. It does not scientifically identify any human being. Tsk, tsk.

Brian, you would make a great Creationist. You think just like them. Creationists too use "science" to support their crazy position. There is even a Creationist financed "museum" in the USA with dioramas showing early men, a few thousand years ago, running around hunting dinosaurs.

Brian, what I am about to say, any person with a high school level of genetics can understand.

Animal species exist. And animal species are genetically different from other species. Some species are related to other species because they shared common ancestors. (for example, cats, bears and horses) But over the millennia, that common ancestor, who spread around the world into vastly different environments, evolved to become identifiably different, in order to better adjust into whatever environment they inhabited.

But that change did not happen overnight. It took hundreds of thousands of year for say, the ancestor of canines to evolve into separate species. As they evolved away from the original species, these new beings are categorised as sub species. Depending upon how far away in time from the original species that they evolved from, they are still fertile with one another and can produce fertile, hybrid offspring.

There are four sub species of African buffalo. They all look similar and they can all breed with each other, and all of them are dangerous. But one is very dangerous. That is the Cape Buffalo. The Cape Buffalo is so dangerous it is one of the "big five" of African dangerous game. There are at least 14 sub species of brown bears. All of them can breed with each other to produce fertile hybrids. All of them are dangerous, but two of them are extremely dangerous. The Grizzly bear is dangerous because of it's size (300Kg) and it's extremely aggressive temperament. the Kodiak bear is extremely dangerous because it is just so big (450 kg), and it can also be aggressive.

If Science and genetics do not recognise "race" Brian, then they could not recognise sub species or hybrid breeds. But they do, Brian. Scientists use genetics to produce new breeds of everything. And anyone with any high school level knowledge of genetics knows that to be true.

Human races co relate exactly with sub species and breeds of animals. And science recognises sub species and breeds. Claiming that science does not recognise race is complete and utter bullshit.


Now, you can keep sprouting your unscientific nonsense. But I am confident that the overwhelming majority of our readers know and understand what I have written makes complete sense, and is absolutely true.

[Bobby]

I saw it. I hope the law comes down hard on them and I hope the kid can sue all parties involved (including the school district and bus company if a separate entity) and get a very good college education out of this situation. I didn't see what led up to the attack, but with 5 on 1 it doesn't matter much. This will keep happening until the law loses their bias and prosecutes all races equally and based on the actions of the individual.

Hi Texan,
it's going to court - I think we'll all follow this one with a keen interest.
Those blacks will have to appear before a Florida judge
for both criminal and civil charges.

cheers
Bobby

[Bogan]

Briney wrote

Science however does not lie.

Science does not lie, Brian, but some scientists do. Just look at climate scientists.

Briney wrote

Genetics shows that we all share the same genetic pool and therefore can interbreed with one another.

Grizzly bears and Kodiak bears both share the same gene pool and can interbreed with one another too, Briney. But science recognises that they are different sub species within the Brown bear species.

Briney wrote

There is only one species - humanity - homo sapien sapiens.

There is only one species of brown bear, and 14 sub species of that brown bear species which science has categorised.

briney wrote

You are genetically identical with a Black African, an Indigenous Australian, a Native American and every other human on this planet, Bogan.

Brian, that is Creationist logic. Any fool knows that if I was genetically identical to an African or a "indigenous" Australian, I would look like them. What you have written is plainly illogical. How do you hope to win this argument with doozies like that?

Briney wrote

It does not scientifically identify any human being.

The science of Paleontology obviously disagrees with that wacky viewpoint. Your on a loser with this one, Briney.

Briney wrote

"Race" as you use the term is purely a social construct, nothing more.

Every category invented by science to categorise every natural phenomena is a 'social construct", Brian. Talk sense.

[brian ross]

Bogan, as always you are mixing concepts to suit your own purposes.

The idea of species and sub-species was first coined in the 19th century when lexigraphers were working out, on the basis of superficial physical differences the reason why some animals were similar but not the same. A lot of this belief has been turned on it's head now that Genetics has been developed to explain the differences. Species and sub-species have been revolutionised to a large extent as a consequence. New species have appeared, new sub-species have appeared old species and sub-species have disappeared.

What remains constant though, is that the different "races" of humanity have not changed. They are all members of the one species - homo sapien sapiens. The Racists have created a whole mythos based upon superficial physical differences such as the amount of melanin, the shape of an individuals eyes, etc. In reality, it is all just a social construct designed to allow Racists to lord it over other humans simply because they have darker or lighter skin colouration. These are superficial physical adaptations to local environmental conditions, nothing more. All of humanity can interbreed. There are no barriers to sperm fertilising ova whether it comes from a person with dark skin or white skin or epicanthic folds over their eyes or yellow skin or anything like that.

You belief in "race" is based on a lie. A lie you tell yourself all the time. "Race" does not exist as you use the term. It is a social construct. Tsk, tsk.

[Black Orchid]

And gender is fluid and transgenders have "overcome natural evolution".