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Re: Trump supporter beaten up.

Post by brian ross » Sat Dec 14, 2019 10:23 am

Bogan wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2019 5:25 am
Now you know why white people opposed the desegregation of schools, Briney.
Some White people maybe, not all White people are, Bogan. :roll
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Re: Trump supporter beaten up.

Post by Redneck » Sat Dec 14, 2019 10:30 am

brian ross wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2019 10:22 am
Bobby wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2019 5:41 am
brian ross wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2019 10:56 pm
Bobby wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2019 7:13 pm
sprintcyclist wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2019 7:08 pm
Yes, this is what the left do when they do not get what they want

It shows that left wingers are violent.
Some Left wingers are violent.
Some Right wingers are violent.

What you're all doing is showing your biases. :roll
Would you agree that the video shows that blacks are racist?
Some are, some aren't, Bobby. Not all Blacks are Racist, just as not all Whites are either. Stop showing your Racism. Tsk, tsk. :roll
Yeah grow up Bobby and stop saying dickhead provocative sh1t! :S

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Re: Trump supporter beaten up.

Post by Texan » Sat Dec 14, 2019 11:51 am

It's really hard to defend any position when you talk in absolute terms. Even if you're right, someone throws an exception in your face. Sometimes your family becomes the exception. You never know.

Everyone has biases concerning race, even mixed race people. Stereotypes exist for a reason.

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Re: Trump supporter beaten up.

Post by brian ross » Sat Dec 14, 2019 12:57 pm

Texan wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2019 11:51 am
It's really hard to defend any position when you talk in absolute terms. Even if you're right, someone throws an exception in your face. Sometimes your family becomes the exception. You never know.

Everyone has biases concerning race, even mixed race people. Stereotypes exist for a reason.
In America perhaps, Tex. However, outside the USA, where Racism isn't as entrenched? :roll
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Re: Trump supporter beaten up.

Post by Texan » Sat Dec 14, 2019 4:27 pm

brian ross wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2019 12:57 pm
Texan wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2019 11:51 am
It's really hard to defend any position when you talk in absolute terms. Even if you're right, someone throws an exception in your face. Sometimes your family becomes the exception. You never know.

Everyone has biases concerning race, even mixed race people. Stereotypes exist for a reason.
In America perhaps, Tex. However, outside the USA, where Racism isn't as entrenched? :roll
Don't kid yourself. Everybody has biases based on race. If you take a person of any race and drop them off in a strange city in the neighborhood of their choice, how many people of any race will choose to be dropped of along MLK Blvd.

Why are "hate crime" laws used almost exclusively against white people?

People have biases and it's hard wired into any culture. You would be very hard pressed to find terms like darkies, nig nogs, or any other slang deemed racist on American internet forums unless they are aimed at the author. Mostly because too much violence has already been stirred up with it and we are tired of it.

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Re: Trump supporter beaten up.

Post by sprintcyclist » Sat Dec 14, 2019 5:22 pm

Texan wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2019 11:51 am
It's really hard to defend any position when you talk in absolute terms. Even if you're right, someone throws an exception in your face. Sometimes your family becomes the exception. You never know.

Everyone has biases concerning race, even mixed race people. Stereotypes exist for a reason.
exactly.

Most racist people I have seen are the maoris in new zealand

will guarantee many tribes in Africa are just as bad
Right Wing is the Natural Progression.

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Re: Trump supporter beaten up.

Post by brian ross » Sat Dec 14, 2019 5:36 pm

Texan wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2019 4:27 pm
brian ross wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2019 12:57 pm
Texan wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2019 11:51 am
It's really hard to defend any position when you talk in absolute terms. Even if you're right, someone throws an exception in your face. Sometimes your family becomes the exception. You never know.

Everyone has biases concerning race, even mixed race people. Stereotypes exist for a reason.
In America perhaps, Tex. However, outside the USA, where Racism isn't as entrenched? :roll
Don't kid yourself. Everybody has biases based on race.
I don't. I have no biases based on "race" because I know that the concept of "race" has no scientific basis and is purely a social construct, Tex. There is no "race" in Genetics. All you are doing is reacting to the amount of melanin that an individual has in their skin or the shape of a person's eyes. etc. These are just evironmental adaptations to local conditions where the individual's ancestors evolved. :roll
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Re: Trump supporter beaten up.

Post by Texan » Sun Dec 15, 2019 1:57 am

brian ross wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2019 5:36 pm
Texan wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2019 4:27 pm
brian ross wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2019 12:57 pm
Texan wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2019 11:51 am
It's really hard to defend any position when you talk in absolute terms. Even if you're right, someone throws an exception in your face. Sometimes your family becomes the exception. You never know.

Everyone has biases concerning race, even mixed race people. Stereotypes exist for a reason.
In America perhaps, Tex. However, outside the USA, where Racism isn't as entrenched? :roll
Don't kid yourself. Everybody has biases based on race.
I don't. I have no biases based on "race" because I know that the concept of "race" has no scientific basis and is purely a social construct, Tex. There is no "race" in Genetics. All you are doing is reacting to the amount of melanin that an individual has in their skin or the shape of a person's eyes. etc. These are just evironmental adaptations to local conditions where the individual's ancestors evolved. :roll
I've made the same argument myself but you know how the word is used.

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Re: Trump supporter beaten up.

Post by Bogan » Sun Dec 15, 2019 5:15 am

Briney wrote

Some are, some aren't, Bobby. Not all Blacks are Racist, just as not all Whites are either. Stop showing your Racism. Tsk, tsk.
But acording to the FBI reports, Briney, Blacks are more racist than whites.

according to the FBI, in the USA...

A white woman is 200 times more likely to be raped by a black man, as a black woman is to be raped by a white man.

A white man is 60 times more likely to be assaulted by a black man, as a black man is to be assaulted by a white man.


Which race is therefore more racist, Briney?
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Some White people maybe, not all White people are, Bogan
Pity that you don't apply the same logic to Australians, Briney. Here is your racist statement applying a different standard to your own people.
Brian quote

So? Are you claiming that Australians weren't Xenophobic, John?
All you have to do to be a socialist humanitarian, is to possess a mindset that can automatically apply different standards to different races.
Briney wrote

In America perhaps, Tex. However, outside the USA, where Racism isn't as entrenched?
Hahaha, that's another racist statement, Brian. You just made a negative generalisation about an entire group of people by claiming that Americans are more racist than anybody else. That one goes in your "clangers" file, too. It is just amazing how you as a supposed anti racist can not identify your own racism. For a person who is intelligent, how is it you can act so stupid?
Texan wrote

Don't kid yourself. Everybody has biases based on race.
Got that right. Brian's bias is that he considers most white people racist, which is a racist generalisation in itself. But amazingly, he can't see his own racism. He just naturally assumes that making racist statements and making generalised stereotypes about white people is perfectly OK.
Texan wrote

Why are "hate crime" laws used almost exclusively against white people?
Yeah, we get that in Australia as well. A respected journalist asks if governments benefits towards "aborigines" should be applied to "aboriginal" people with white skin, blue eyes and blond hair, and he gets prosecuted for "racism", while Muslims march in violent demonstrations' holding up signs saying "BEHEAD THOSE WHO INSULT THE PROPHET and they are given "counselling."
Briney wrote

I don't.
Yes, you do, Brian. Once again, here are your racist quotes about white people in general, and white Americans in particular.
In America perhaps, Tex. However, outside the USA, where Racism isn't as entrenched?

So? Are you claiming that Australians weren't Xenophobic, John?

I don't detest Americans. In fact I quite like them. They provide me with endless hours of amusement and I actually believe they have considerable potential, once they shed their arrogance to be sensible people.

Many Americans have insufferable hubris and almost completely lack empathy for any point of view other than their own. Their ignorance about any other society is another annoying feature. Their belief in exceptionalism of course is rather annoying as well. Oh, and their propensity for electing fools to lead them but perhaps that's a symptom of the previous points?

The first wave of Americans were welcomed in Brisbane but the latter waves weren't. They brought their usual hubris and arrogance, John. The result was the "Battle of Brisbane" or didn't your mother tell you about that. The usual comment was "Over-paid, over-sexed and over here."

Everytime I lift up a rock I find a lot of slaters underneath which hate the light being shone on their activities and that is how I feel often about the US Government and many Americans.

You put three Jews in a room and you'll get four opinions. You put three Muslims in a room and you'll have a schism followed by a civil war. You put three Christians in a room and they'll be playing "pass the parcel" faster than you can blink an eye.

Perhaps, if "Whitey" wasn't around, they wouldn't have many of those problems to contend with, F & N. Bit of a chicken and egg issue, really - which came first? Black peoples' inadequacies or "Whitey's" imperialism which created those inadequacies?
Briney wrote

I have no biases based on "race" because I know that the concept of "race" has no scientific basis and is purely a social construct, Tex.
Then why are you so racist towards white people, Brian? Either you recognise the concept of race or you do not. If you claim that race does not exist, then you should be arguing that the Department of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders (a racist term in itself) should not exist. But you will never do that because you know that these two different races of people do exist. So you claim that races do not exist when it suits you, and turn around and make statements which take it for granted that they do exist when it suits you. That is another one of your glaring contradictions. It is an illogical position. it is real Creationist logic.
Briney wrote

There is no "race" in Genetics. All you are doing is reacting to the amount of melanin that an individual has in their skin or the shape of a person's eyes. etc. These are just environmental adaptations to local conditions where the individual's ancestors evolved
That is complete nonsense. "Species" exist in genetics and so do "sub species" and "breeds". Human ethnicity equates exactly with sub species and breeds. The English language may not emphasise that point because equating humans with animals is considered impolite. But science just blurts out the truth and it is not concerned with what people think is polite.

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Re: Trump supporter beaten up.

Post by brian ross » Sun Dec 15, 2019 11:47 am

Bogan wrote:
Sun Dec 15, 2019 5:15 am
Briney wrote

There is no "race" in Genetics. All you are doing is reacting to the amount of melanin that an individual has in their skin or the shape of a person's eyes. etc. These are just environmental adaptations to local conditions where the individual's ancestors evolved
That is complete nonsense. "Species" exist in genetics and so do "sub species" and "breeds". Human ethnicity equates exactly with sub species and breeds. The English language may not emphasise that point because equating humans with animals is considered impolite. But science just blurts out the truth and it is not concerned with what people think is polite.
I am sure you wish it was, Bogan. Science however does not lie. Genetics does not line. Genetics cannot find any single gene or group of genes which are associated with the concept of "race" as used by you. Genetics shows that we all share the same genetic pool and therefore can interbreed with one another. There is only one species - humanity - homo sapien sapiens. You are genetically identical with a Black African, an Indigenous Australian, a Native American and every other human on this planet, Bogan. Time you faced up to that reality and accepted it. "Race" as you use the term is purely a social construct, nothing more. It does not scientifically identify any human being. Tsk, tsk. :roll :roll
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