Muslim Australians found to suffer the most

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Re: Muslim Australians found to suffer the most

Post by FLEKTARN » Sat Jul 13, 2019 1:58 am

The4thEstate wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:41 pm
FLEKTARN wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:23 am
The4thEstate wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:01 am
Oh yeah, America went into Afghanistan to get all that oil!

NEXT ...

This image explains it all. No need to talk.


Actually, it's a rather dumb joke, considering that Afghanistan isn't oil-rich and the U.S. didn't seize Iraq's oil fields and exploit them for our own use. But hey, whatever makes you giggle. It's not as if I lose any sleep every time some bitter foreign troll takes a pot shot at my country.

And by all means, please live by the words of your last sentence.

My best clients are Americans, mostly from Upstate New York and Louisiana. I don't have nothing against them, we're friends. I like American culture. I just don't like aggressors. What do you think, that I like Bulgarian aggressors? I hate racists, loudmouths, insulters from any country. And by the way, let me just quote something for you!

Afghanistan has over 1,400 mineral fields, containing barite, chromite, coal, copper, gold, iron ore, lead, natural gas, petroleum, precious and semi-precious stones, salt, sulfur, talc, and zinc, among many other minerals. Gemstones include high-quality emerald, lapis lazuli, red garnet and ruby. According to a joint study by The Pentagon and the United States Geological Survey, Afghanistan has an estimated US$3 trillion of untapped minerals.

So you are wrong. And also opium. One of the greatest exporters of opium. And drugs make money. Not to mention through Afghanistan, you can reach other more richer oilfields - in Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan, to the Indian Ocean. These oilfields hold more than 200 billion barrels of oil!
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Re: Muslim Australians found to suffer the most

Post by The4thEstate » Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:49 pm

FLEKTARN wrote:
Sat Jul 13, 2019 1:58 am
My best clients are Americans, mostly from Upstate New York and Louisiana. I don't have nothing against them, we're friends. I like American culture. I just don't like aggressors. What do you think, that I like Bulgarian aggressors? I hate racists, loudmouths, insulters from any country. And by the way, let me just quote something for you!

Afghanistan has over 1,400 mineral fields, containing barite, chromite, coal, copper, gold, iron ore, lead, natural gas, petroleum, precious and semi-precious stones, salt, sulfur, talc, and zinc, among many other minerals. Gemstones include high-quality emerald, lapis lazuli, red garnet and ruby. According to a joint study by The Pentagon and the United States Geological Survey, Afghanistan has an estimated US$3 trillion of untapped minerals.

So you are wrong. And also opium. One of the greatest exporters of opium. And drugs make money. Not to mention through Afghanistan, you can reach other more richer oilfields - in Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan, to the Indian Ocean. These oilfields hold more than 200 billion barrels of oil!
So what? You're missing the point as usual.

Did the U.S. go into Afghanistan to seize oil fields and pump billions of barrels of oil out of the country? Are any American oil production facilities being developed there now? You know the answer.

That's why it's silly to accuse the U.S. of entering Afghanistan (or Iraq, for that matter) just for oil.

If you're really concerned about aggressors asserting their will over the Middle East, maybe you should pay more attention to the East instead of the West. For instance, there's this story from 3 months ago: "Chinese company helps restore oil production in Iraq's largest oil field"
http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2019-0 ... 002161.htm

But I'm sure the Chinese are revving up Iraq oil production out of the goodness of their altruistic hearts, right?

And tell me again how it is that you "hate racists, loudmouths, insulters from any country" ... yet call me names like "ginger Jew." Maybe you should listen to the lyrics of this old Michael Jackson song and do what it suggests:

I'm starting with the man in the mirror
I'm asking him to change his ways
And no message could have been any clearer
If you want to make the world a better place
Take a look at yourself, and then make a change

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Re: Muslim Australians found to suffer the most

Post by brian ross » Sun Jul 14, 2019 11:23 am

The US was not dependent on either Afghanistan or Iraq for oil. Indeed, there was no oil industry in Afghanistan. However, US Allies, particularly Japan and Europe were dependent on Iraqi Oil before Gulf War I. Washington's fear was that with the loss of that oil both regions/countries would find it difficult to fuel their economies and trade with the US, so there was a motive for ejecting Iraq from Kuwait and ensure the ongoing supply of oil.

In real life, the Oil was lost anyway because of sanctions. Europe and Japan were forced to turn to other sources - most notably Iran and Saudi Arabia and Kuwait, so the short fall was made up anyway. Then there was the decision after Afghanistan to "finish things off in Iraq" and open the door for US Oil there. We all know how well that's turned out, don't we? :roll:
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Re: Muslim Australians found to suffer the most

Post by FLEKTARN » Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:28 pm

The4thEstate wrote:
Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:49 pm
FLEKTARN wrote:
Sat Jul 13, 2019 1:58 am
My best clients are Americans, mostly from Upstate New York and Louisiana. I don't have nothing against them, we're friends. I like American culture. I just don't like aggressors. What do you think, that I like Bulgarian aggressors? I hate racists, loudmouths, insulters from any country. And by the way, let me just quote something for you!

Afghanistan has over 1,400 mineral fields, containing barite, chromite, coal, copper, gold, iron ore, lead, natural gas, petroleum, precious and semi-precious stones, salt, sulfur, talc, and zinc, among many other minerals. Gemstones include high-quality emerald, lapis lazuli, red garnet and ruby. According to a joint study by The Pentagon and the United States Geological Survey, Afghanistan has an estimated US$3 trillion of untapped minerals.

So you are wrong. And also opium. One of the greatest exporters of opium. And drugs make money. Not to mention through Afghanistan, you can reach other more richer oilfields - in Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan, to the Indian Ocean. These oilfields hold more than 200 billion barrels of oil!
So what? You're missing the point as usual.

Did the U.S. go into Afghanistan to seize oil fields and pump billions of barrels of oil out of the country? Are any American oil production facilities being developed there now? You know the answer.

That's why it's silly to accuse the U.S. of entering Afghanistan (or Iraq, for that matter) just for oil.

If you're really concerned about aggressors asserting their will over the Middle East, maybe you should pay more attention to the East instead of the West. For instance, there's this story from 3 months ago: "Chinese company helps restore oil production in Iraq's largest oil field"
http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2019-0 ... 002161.htm

But I'm sure the Chinese are revving up Iraq oil production out of the goodness of their altruistic hearts, right?

And tell me again how it is that you "hate racists, loudmouths, insulters from any country" ... yet call me names like "ginger Jew." Maybe you should listen to the lyrics of this old Michael Jackson song and do what it suggests:

I'm starting with the man in the mirror
I'm asking him to change his ways
And no message could have been any clearer
If you want to make the world a better place
Take a look at yourself, and then make a change

Jesus, you're dumb as fuck. According to the US Energy Information Administration (EIA), Iraq's oil reserves of 112 billion barrels ranks second in the world, only behind Saudi Arabia.

US-based energy firm Emerson submitted a bid for a contract to operate at Iraq's giant Zubair oil field, which reportedly holds some eight million barrels of oil. Iraq's supergiant Rumaila oil field is already being developed by BP, and the other supergiant reserve, Majnoon oil field, is being developed by Royal Dutch Shell. Both fields are in southern Iraq.

BP's group chief executive is Bob Dudley, born in Queens, New York, U.S. And Royal Dutch Shell...well, it's Shell USA. Chairman is Charles O. Holliday from Nashville, Tennessee.
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Re: Muslim Australians found to suffer the most

Post by The4thEstate » Tue Jul 16, 2019 4:56 am

FLEKTARN wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:28 pm
The4thEstate wrote:
Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:49 pm
FLEKTARN wrote:
Sat Jul 13, 2019 1:58 am
My best clients are Americans, mostly from Upstate New York and Louisiana. I don't have nothing against them, we're friends. I like American culture. I just don't like aggressors. What do you think, that I like Bulgarian aggressors? I hate racists, loudmouths, insulters from any country. And by the way, let me just quote something for you!

Afghanistan has over 1,400 mineral fields, containing barite, chromite, coal, copper, gold, iron ore, lead, natural gas, petroleum, precious and semi-precious stones, salt, sulfur, talc, and zinc, among many other minerals. Gemstones include high-quality emerald, lapis lazuli, red garnet and ruby. According to a joint study by The Pentagon and the United States Geological Survey, Afghanistan has an estimated US$3 trillion of untapped minerals.

So you are wrong. And also opium. One of the greatest exporters of opium. And drugs make money. Not to mention through Afghanistan, you can reach other more richer oilfields - in Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan, to the Indian Ocean. These oilfields hold more than 200 billion barrels of oil!
So what? You're missing the point as usual.

Did the U.S. go into Afghanistan to seize oil fields and pump billions of barrels of oil out of the country? Are any American oil production facilities being developed there now? You know the answer.

That's why it's silly to accuse the U.S. of entering Afghanistan (or Iraq, for that matter) just for oil.

If you're really concerned about aggressors asserting their will over the Middle East, maybe you should pay more attention to the East instead of the West. For instance, there's this story from 3 months ago: "Chinese company helps restore oil production in Iraq's largest oil field"
http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2019-0 ... 002161.htm

But I'm sure the Chinese are revving up Iraq oil production out of the goodness of their altruistic hearts, right?

And tell me again how it is that you "hate racists, loudmouths, insulters from any country" ... yet call me names like "ginger Jew." Maybe you should listen to the lyrics of this old Michael Jackson song and do what it suggests:

I'm starting with the man in the mirror
I'm asking him to change his ways
And no message could have been any clearer
If you want to make the world a better place
Take a look at yourself, and then make a change

Jesus, you're dumb as fuck. According to the US Energy Information Administration (EIA), Iraq's oil reserves of 112 billion barrels ranks second in the world, only behind Saudi Arabia.

US-based energy firm Emerson submitted a bid for a contract to operate at Iraq's giant Zubair oil field, which reportedly holds some eight million barrels of oil. Iraq's supergiant Rumaila oil field is already being developed by BP, and the other supergiant reserve, Majnoon oil field, is being developed by Royal Dutch Shell. Both fields are in southern Iraq.

BP's group chief executive is Bob Dudley, born in Queens, New York, U.S. And Royal Dutch Shell...well, it's Shell USA. Chairman is Charles O. Holliday from Nashville, Tennessee.
Yes, an American company submitted a bid for a contract ... vs. the U.S. military going into Iraq and seizing oil fields to be exploited by the American government.

Thank you for making my point: "It's silly to accuse the U.S. of entering Afghanistan (or Iraq, for that matter) just for oil."

Or did you think that George Bush hatched a nefarious plot to go into Iraq and defeat Saddam's military just so American companies could
SUBMIT A BID FOR A CONTRACT???

Wow, such ghastly unbridled hegemony!!!

Speaking of points, what exactly was yours in bringing up BP and Royal Dutch Shell in discussing the development of oil fields in Iraq? Neither one of those corporations is based in the U.S., obviously (to most of us, anyway).

Finally, may I say it's highly instructive to see how well a guy who claims to "hate racists, loudmouths, insulters from any country" sets such a perfect example himself.

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Re: Muslim Australians found to suffer the most

Post by FLEKTARN » Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:51 pm

The4thEstate wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2019 4:56 am

Yes, an American company submitted a bid for a contract ... vs. the U.S. military going into Iraq and seizing oil fields to be exploited by the American government.

Listen, kreker, no matter how much you want to twist the facts, they are still that - undeniable facts. Yes, all these Jewmerican companies submitted “bids” ... after Iraq got invaded by you, people. Not before! I don’t remember these bids happening when Uncle Saddam was still alive.
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Re: Muslim Australians found to suffer the most

Post by The4thEstate » Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:03 am

FLEKTARN wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:51 pm
The4thEstate wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2019 4:56 am

Yes, an American company submitted a bid for a contract ... vs. the U.S. military going into Iraq and seizing oil fields to be exploited by the American government.
Listen, kreker, no matter how much you want to twist the facts, they are still that - undeniable facts. Yes, all these Jewmerican companies submitted “bids” ... after Iraq got invaded by you, people. Not before! I don’t remember these bids happening when Uncle Saddam was still alive.
OK, let me spell it out for you in terms that perhaps even you can understand.

1. If you're trying to brand America as some tyrannical conqueror of oil-rich nations, you're going to have to come up with a lot more intelligent argument than: "One of your oil companies is bidding for the right to develop oil fields in Iraq."

That's not how conquering nations behave. For more information, look up "Nazi Germany" or "Roman Empire."

Then again, if that's really your idea of a conqueror, you'll have to add the U.K. and the Netherlands to your list of conquering countries, because -- as you yourself just said -- those nations' oil companies are already developing Iraqi oil fields.

In fact, by your standard, that makes the U.K. and the Netherlands even more brutal conquerors than merciless, oil-lustful America ... because those two countries got there first! Heaven forfend!

2. Let's also remember this immortal paragraph from you, which I'm going to remind you of from now on as a display of your own hilarious hypocrisy:

My best clients are Americans, mostly from Upstate New York and Louisiana. I don't have nothing against them, we're friends. I like American culture. I just don't like aggressors. What do you think, that I like Bulgarian aggressors? I hate racists, loudmouths, insulters from any country.

Hmmm, you say that ... and yet, you write this in your last post:
Yes, all these Jewmerican companies

So let me get this straight: You "hate racists, loudmouths, insulters from any country"... and yet you talk about "Jewmerican companies."

Gosh, how can we possibly believe your avowed hatred for racists and loudmouths with epithets like that? Or could it be that you actually hate yourself?

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Re: Muslim Australians found to suffer the most

Post by FLEKTARN » Fri Jul 19, 2019 12:53 am

The4thEstate wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:03 am
If you're trying to brand America as some tyrannical conqueror of oil-rich nations, you're going to have to come up with a lot more intelligent argument than: "One of your oil companies is bidding for the right to develop oil fields in Iraq."

That's not how conquering nations behave. For more information, look up "Nazi Germany" or "Roman Empire."

Then again, if that's really your idea of a conqueror, you'll have to add the U.K. and the Netherlands to your list of conquering countries, because -- as you yourself just said -- those nations' oil companies are already developing Iraqi oil fields.


Lol, the world already knows everything about the imperialistic tactics the U.S. uses, you Jumbo. Your end is near. You are going to have the biggest, bloodiest civil war ever. And by the way, the U.K. couldn't swallow the hard fact that old generations Americans beat them at their game and gained an indipenced, so now the U.K. has established control over you in other, smarter ways. Through Wall Streets, stocks, banks, and even Hollywood. The Dutch are small fish. They can't fart without London allowing it!
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Re: Muslim Australians found to suffer the most

Post by The4thEstate » Fri Jul 19, 2019 8:45 am

FLEKTARN wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2019 12:53 am
The4thEstate wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:03 am
If you're trying to brand America as some tyrannical conqueror of oil-rich nations, you're going to have to come up with a lot more intelligent argument than: "One of your oil companies is bidding for the right to develop oil fields in Iraq."

That's not how conquering nations behave. For more information, look up "Nazi Germany" or "Roman Empire."

Then again, if that's really your idea of a conqueror, you'll have to add the U.K. and the Netherlands to your list of conquering countries, because -- as you yourself just said -- those nations' oil companies are already developing Iraqi oil fields.


Lol, the world already knows everything about the imperialistic tactics the U.S. uses, you Jumbo. Your end is near. You are going to have the biggest, bloodiest civil war ever. And by the way, the U.K. couldn't swallow the hard fact that old generations Americans beat them at their game and gained an indipenced, so now the U.K. has established control over you in other, smarter ways. Through Wall Streets, stocks, banks, and even Hollywood. The Dutch are small fish. They can't fart without London allowing it!
And I thought the Cold War was a thing of the past! Wow, reading your posts is like listening to Radio Moscow, circa mid-1970s. What a quaint nostalgia trip!

Guess you can take the boy out of Soviet domination, but you can't take the Soviet domination out of the boy!

I must say ... from Alexander the Great to Mikhail Gorbachev, you Bulgarians have quite a proud history of being subjugated. Sounds like you're still missing the good old days.

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Re: Muslim Australians found to suffer the most

Post by FLEKTARN » Fri Jul 19, 2019 1:25 pm

The4thEstate wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2019 8:45 am
FLEKTARN wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2019 12:53 am
The4thEstate wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:03 am
If you're trying to brand America as some tyrannical conqueror of oil-rich nations, you're going to have to come up with a lot more intelligent argument than: "One of your oil companies is bidding for the right to develop oil fields in Iraq."

That's not how conquering nations behave. For more information, look up "Nazi Germany" or "Roman Empire."

Then again, if that's really your idea of a conqueror, you'll have to add the U.K. and the Netherlands to your list of conquering countries, because -- as you yourself just said -- those nations' oil companies are already developing Iraqi oil fields.


Lol, the world already knows everything about the imperialistic tactics the U.S. uses, you Jumbo. Your end is near. You are going to have the biggest, bloodiest civil war ever. And by the way, the U.K. couldn't swallow the hard fact that old generations Americans beat them at their game and gained an indipenced, so now the U.K. has established control over you in other, smarter ways. Through Wall Streets, stocks, banks, and even Hollywood. The Dutch are small fish. They can't fart without London allowing it!
And I thought the Cold War was a thing of the past! Wow, reading your posts is like listening to Radio Moscow, circa mid-1970s. What a quaint nostalgia trip!

Guess you can take the boy out of Soviet domination, but you can't take the Soviet domination out of the boy!

I must say ... from Alexander the Great to Mikhail Gorbachev, you Bulgarians have quite a proud history of being subjugated. Sounds like you're still missing the good old days.
Aussie, Mothra and Smith called me a Nazi numerous times, now you're calling me a Commie. I didn't know I could be a Nazi, AND a Commie at the same time! That's something new. That means I'm the first of his kind Nazi Commie! Lol, you just confirmed the stereotype, Americans ARE dumb, at least the majority of them. Texan is definitely not dumb, but you are. Maybe the fact he's from Texas, and you from Indiana. I don't know. Never mind.

And for the record, I never lived under Communist rule, you cuck. I was born in 1991, two years after the fall of USSR, okay, Mister Idiot? Okay.
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