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Re: Only people who pay tax should have a right to vote

Post by Black Orchid » Sat May 25, 2019 2:21 pm

If one of a couple pays tax they both should be considered as paying tax.

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Re: Only people who pay tax should have a right to vote

Post by BigP » Sat May 25, 2019 3:06 pm

Black Orchid wrote:
Sat May 25, 2019 2:21 pm
If one of a couple pays tax they both should be considered as paying tax.
As should their kids if they are at home or in education

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Re: Only people who pay tax should have a right to vote

Post by brian ross » Sat May 25, 2019 4:30 pm

Tax franchises and property franchises were abandoned because they were considered inherently unfair and disenfranchised the very people who should be concerned with the outcomes of elections - the poor and poverty stricken.

Tax and property franchises invariably favour the rich. They are unfair. In South Australia the property franchise was ended in the early 1960s by Steele Hall, despite knowing that it would mean the end of his government - which it did. I've always admired people like Steele Hall - they have the guts to follow through on their beliefs (and guess what? He was a Tory as well).
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Re: Only people who pay tax should have a right to vote

Post by Nicole » Sat May 25, 2019 5:56 pm

brian ross wrote:
Sat May 25, 2019 4:30 pm
Tax franchises and property franchises were abandoned because they were considered inherently unfair and disenfranchised the very people who should be concerned with the outcomes of elections - the poor and poverty stricken.

Tax and property franchises invariably favour the rich. They are unfair. In South Australia the property franchise was ended in the early 1960s by Steele Hall, despite knowing that it would mean the end of his government - which it did. I've always admired people like Steele Hall - they have the guts to follow through on their beliefs (and guess what? He was a Tory as well).
Whilst I agree with you to an extent, Brian, working people by and large are not “rich”. They are ordinary Australians living in the burbs trying to raise their families and keep a roof over their heads. And they have the shit taxed out of them

They have more right to the vote than someone who chooses to sponge off welfare.

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Re: Only people who pay tax should have a right to vote

Post by brian ross » Sun May 26, 2019 1:51 pm

Mistress Nicole wrote:
Sat May 25, 2019 5:56 pm
brian ross wrote:
Sat May 25, 2019 4:30 pm
Tax franchises and property franchises were abandoned because they were considered inherently unfair and disenfranchised the very people who should be concerned with the outcomes of elections - the poor and poverty stricken.

Tax and property franchises invariably favour the rich. They are unfair. In South Australia the property franchise was ended in the early 1960s by Steele Hall, despite knowing that it would mean the end of his government - which it did. I've always admired people like Steele Hall - they have the guts to follow through on their beliefs (and guess what? He was a Tory as well).
Whilst I agree with you to an extent, Brian, working people by and large are not “rich”. They are ordinary Australians living in the burbs trying to raise their families and keep a roof over their heads. And they have the shit taxed out of them

They have more right to the vote than someone who chooses to sponge off welfare.
I wonder which universe you live in sometimes, "Nicole". I've rarely met anyone who, out of choice, "sponges off of welfare". Welfare doesn't pay enough to live on, so I am unsure where you get the idea that people life the life of Riley on it.

Middle income earners make up the bulk of the tax payer population. Yet, high income earners earn far more, per capita than the middle income earners and yet they are always, by the Tories, given tax breaks disproportionate to what they earn. Is that fair in your view?
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Re: Only people who pay tax should have a right to vote

Post by BigP » Sun May 26, 2019 1:58 pm

""working people by and large are not “rich”.""


That's an interesting comment Nicole, Im curious as to what qualifies as rich , im sure there will be variable opinions amongst the members here, At what income or net wealth do you become rich?

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Re: Only people who pay tax should have a right to vote

Post by sprintcyclist » Sun May 26, 2019 4:47 pm

BigP wrote:
Sun May 26, 2019 1:58 pm
""working people by and large are not “rich”.""


That's an interesting comment Nicole, Im curious as to what qualifies as rich , im sure there will be variable opinions amongst the members here, At what income or net wealth do you become rich?
When you do not work for your income.
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Re: Only people who pay tax should have a right to vote

Post by BigP » Sun May 26, 2019 5:18 pm

sprintcyclist wrote:
Sun May 26, 2019 4:47 pm
BigP wrote:
Sun May 26, 2019 1:58 pm
""working people by and large are not “rich”.""


That's an interesting comment Nicole, Im curious as to what qualifies as rich , im sure there will be variable opinions amongst the members here, At what income or net wealth do you become rich?
When you do not work for your income.

Im sure Bill Gates feels he still works for his income

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Re: Only people who pay tax should have a right to vote

Post by Valkie » Sun May 26, 2019 8:33 pm

sprintcyclist wrote:
Sun May 26, 2019 4:47 pm
BigP wrote:
Sun May 26, 2019 1:58 pm
""working people by and large are not “rich”.""


That's an interesting comment Nicole, Im curious as to what qualifies as rich , im sure there will be variable opinions amongst the members here, At what income or net wealth do you become rich?
When you do not work for your income.
Oh, you mean dole bludging abbos?

Welfare cheating muzzos?

Public servant kleptocrats?
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Re: Only people who pay tax should have a right to vote

Post by IQS.RLOW » Sun May 26, 2019 10:54 pm

brian ross wrote:
Sun May 26, 2019 1:51 pm
Middle income earners make up the bulk of the tax payer population. Yet, high income earners earn far more, per capita than the middle income earners and yet they are always, by the Tories, given tax breaks disproportionate to what they earn. Is that fair in your view?
:lol: Trying to muddy the waters with "tax payer populations" vs those that actually pay the bulk of tax revenue.
Of course those that have paid more tax in both dollars and percentage of income get more back. The clue is in the name "tax break"
Back to re-education camp for you until you learn to Lrn2marxist. Hopefully you can advance from useless to useful idiot.

In what universe do you live where you think a pissweak attempt at class war rhetoric using weasel words won't get called out?
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