More Shorten Lies

[Bobby]

today we were told Clive has allocated $80 million for his campaign...



and he stole it all.....and yes he will win seats..

tell you what! we deserve what we get.

Just heard on 3AW -
Clive will pick up so many votes that he
will be the King maker.
He will have enough votes to make Morrison control the Senate.
Looks like it's not in the bag for Bill.

[sprintcyclist]

today we were told Clive has allocated $80 million for his campaign...



and he stole it all.....and yes he will win seats..

tell you what! we deserve what we get.

that would be disappointing

[The Mechanic]

Where’s Bull

There’s at least 27 Labor Candidates that have scrubbed Bull SHitten out of their campaign Material...

Bill Shorten has been airbrushed from campaign material in at least 27 federal seats, about half of them hotly contested marginals, as Labor works to counter the Opposition Leader's poor personal rating among voters.

Campaign material distributed by Labor candidates in nine Queensland seats — including letters, flyers and postal voting applications — does not contain a single mention or photograph of Mr Shorten.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation ... ahwUAHXVPw

[The Mechanic]

I am all for a ROYAL into SUPER...not that I have any but I am sick to death of pollies thinking they can raid it at will..

it should be a hands off zone...

so many people die before they get their hands on their Super...so who benefits from that??..

is it like a bank account you dont use and if you dont they steal it from under you,,,

hands off other peoples money...

This is becoming my number ONE pet hate...

The Australian Governments have made super compulsory so that they don’t have to pay you a pension when you retire ... you use your super as a pension... but now we are finding that sweet FA is left of your super because over the years successive governments keep changing the rules to raid your nest egg

Bull Shitten has signalled... yet again... that Labor is ready to raid Australians super nest eggs again...

If i recollect... this was already done by the Rudd/Gillard Governments...

When will it stop?

And if that’s not bad enough... they keep pushing your retirement age out older and older

[Bobby]

I am all for a ROYAL into SUPER...not that I have any but I am sick to death of pollies thinking they can raid it at will..

it should be a hands off zone...

so many people die before they get their hands on their Super...so who benefits from that??..

is it like a bank account you dont use and if you dont they steal it from under you,,,

hands off other peoples money...

This is becoming my number ONE pet hate...

The Australian Governments have made super compulsory so that they don’t have to pay you a pension when you retire ... you use your super as a pension... but now we are finding that sweet FA is left of your super because over the years successive governments keep changing the rules to raid your nest egg

Bull Shitten has signalled... yet again... that Labor is ready to raid Australians super nest eggs again...

If i recollect... this was already done by the Rudd/Gillard Governments...

When will it stop?

And if that’s not bad enough... they keep pushing your retirement age out older and older

If you do get any super before you die
they'll cut your pension.

[billy the kid]

How times have changed....
I recollect back in the day that super was provided for public servants simply as an incentive for people to become public servants
as the job was so mundane they needed incentives to keep people in the job. Together with rec leave, sick leave and public holidays, being a public servant suddenly became attractive as a secure working life style.
Even back in the 90s I can recollect salary sacrificing into your super fund was only available to the executives within the public service. Then they condescendingly allowed the peons to take advantage of it.
Then Keating made it compulsory for every employer to provide a super payment for employees.
Nowadays, we are becoming increasingly worried about our super because we have become aware that governments are not to be trusted with our super.
Super was pretty simple to understand at one stage...not any more...its complex...its portable...there are super funds
that dont perform...fees eat up your asset growth...some people have numerous funds because they have had numerous
jobs and havent got time to study the subject...and of course we have do it yourself super funds, where you look after it yourself and get slugged with government fees every year for the privilege....plus you have to have the fund audited every year...more expense....and the government changes the rules every year...so to speak...
I can even remember switching funds back in the 90s and thinking Id dodged a bullet if I thought there was a pending stock market
collapse...then I realised my switch from say high growth into capital guaranteed would not go through until the end of the month, rather than the day I switched...which might have been the 2nd working day of the month...
Even now, how many people realize that if you take an annuity and dont name a beneficiary, your super annuity dies with you when you die, and your surviving spouse gets nothing...your annuity reverts back to the super fund....why take an annuity when you can take a lump sum...which is more beneficial...how much tax do you pay on a lump sum payment.....how do you then invest it...
Superannuation is not like it used to be...and it shouldnt be the responsibility of employers to provide super for the workers.
Its the responsibility of the worker to provide for his own retirement.
Super these days is in a huge fund which is vulnerable to government plundering....
Things are crook when the average Aussie doesnt trust the government to leave his super alone...
People are even conned into thinking they need super when they enter the work force.
You dont need super at the age of 18...thats a con....
In any case, the millenials of today are too busy campaigning to get their pills tested...but I digress.....

[Neferti]

today we were told Clive has allocated $80 million for his campaign...



and he stole it all.....and yes he will win seats..

tell you what! we deserve what we get.

Fat Clive has a candidate in every electorate in Australia. I will not vote for him on principle. I wish that Pauline had done the same, then I might have thought about it.

If you want to make a quick quid, I hear that Clive is actually paying people to hand out How to Vote cards ... doesn't mean you have to follow what he says, though.

[Black Orchid]

How times have changed....
I recollect back in the day that super was provided for public servants simply as an incentive for people to become public servants
as the job was so mundane they needed incentives to keep people in the job. Together with rec leave, sick leave and public holidays, being a public servant suddenly became attractive as a secure working life style.
Even back in the 90s I can recollect salary sacrificing into your super fund was only available to the executives within the public service. Then they condescendingly allowed the peons to take advantage of it.
Then Keating made it compulsory for every employer to provide a super payment for employees.
Nowadays, we are becoming increasingly worried about our super because we have become aware that governments are not to be trusted with our super.
Super was pretty simple to understand at one stage...not any more...its complex...its portable...there are super funds
that dont perform...fees eat up your asset growth...some people have numerous funds because they have had numerous
jobs and havent got time to study the subject...and of course we have do it yourself super funds, where you look after it yourself and get slugged with government fees every year for the privilege....plus you have to have the fund audited every year...more expense....and the government changes the rules every year...so to speak...
I can even remember switching funds back in the 90s and thinking Id dodged a bullet if I thought there was a pending stock market
collapse...then I realised my switch from say high growth into capital guaranteed would not go through until the end of the month, rather than the day I switched...which might have been the 2nd working day of the month...
Even now, how many people realize that if you take an annuity and dont name a beneficiary, your super annuity dies with you when you die, and your surviving spouse gets nothing...your annuity reverts back to the super fund....why take an annuity when you can take a lump sum...which is more beneficial...how much tax do you pay on a lump sum payment.....how do you then invest it...
Superannuation is not like it used to be...and it shouldnt be the responsibility of employers to provide super for the workers.
Its the responsibility of the worker to provide for his own retirement.
Super these days is in a huge fund which is vulnerable to government plundering....
Things are crook when the average Aussie doesnt trust the government to leave his super alone...
People are even conned into thinking they need super when they enter the work force.
You dont need super at the age of 18...thats a con....
In any case, the millenials of today are too busy campaigning to get their pills tested...but I digress.....

Public servants also had the choice between a lump sum or wage/payments until death. Even after you died your wife still got paid at half to three quarters of the rate. It wasn't profitable for the government though so now they are trying to stick their fingers into your pie to recoup back what they can.

[Neferti]

How times have changed....
I recollect back in the day that super was provided for public servants simply as an incentive for people to become public servants
as the job was so mundane they needed incentives to keep people in the job. Together with rec leave, sick leave and public holidays, being a public servant suddenly became attractive as a secure working life style.
Even back in the 90s I can recollect salary sacrificing into your super fund was only available to the executives within the public service. Then they condescendingly allowed the peons to take advantage of it.
Then Keating made it compulsory for every employer to provide a super payment for employees.
Nowadays, we are becoming increasingly worried about our super because we have become aware that governments are not to be trusted with our super.
Super was pretty simple to understand at one stage...not any more...its complex...its portable...there are super funds
that dont perform...fees eat up your asset growth...some people have numerous funds because they have had numerous
jobs and havent got time to study the subject...and of course we have do it yourself super funds, where you look after it yourself and get slugged with government fees every year for the privilege....plus you have to have the fund audited every year...more expense....and the government changes the rules every year...so to speak...
I can even remember switching funds back in the 90s and thinking Id dodged a bullet if I thought there was a pending stock market
collapse...then I realised my switch from say high growth into capital guaranteed would not go through until the end of the month, rather than the day I switched...which might have been the 2nd working day of the month...
Even now, how many people realize that if you take an annuity and dont name a beneficiary, your super annuity dies with you when you die, and your surviving spouse gets nothing...your annuity reverts back to the super fund....why take an annuity when you can take a lump sum...which is more beneficial...how much tax do you pay on a lump sum payment.....how do you then invest it...
Superannuation is not like it used to be...and it shouldnt be the responsibility of employers to provide super for the workers.
Its the responsibility of the worker to provide for his own retirement.
Super these days is in a huge fund which is vulnerable to government plundering....
Things are crook when the average Aussie doesnt trust the government to leave his super alone...
People are even conned into thinking they need super when they enter the work force.
You dont need super at the age of 18...thats a con....
In any case, the millenials of today are too busy campaigning to get their pills tested...but I digress.....

Public servants also had the choice between a lump sum or wage/payments until death. Even after you died your wife still got paid at half to three quarters of the rate. It wasn't profitable for the government though so now they are trying to stick their fingers into your pie to recoup back what they can.

I didn't have superannuation until I joined the Commonwealth Public Service in 1986. I remember that they changed it from PSS to CSS and we all had "meetings" to discuss and tell us that we should change to the "new" and "better" CSS. I didn't, figured that if "they" wanted to change things it wouldn't be "to my advantage". I no longer care, one way or the other.

[billy the kid]

Shorten says..."we're going to have a look at the books"...in the NT today....
The more I listen to this moron the more I think he is a fkn idiot.......
Seriously....Bill Shorten as Prime Minister of Australia....youre fkn kidding....
He couldnt find his arse with both hands...he cant answer questions...he just babbles....
Hes a jibberer....a fkn jibberer.....
This is a prime example of the depth of talent (or should I say lack of depth) in Australian politics at the moment....a fkn moron....