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Bobby
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by Bobby » Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:17 pm
Black Orchid wrote: ↑Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:49 pm
Show me where I hate the ALP with a passion Brian. I honestly don't know how you come up with this BS.
Yes - and see my story above?
It's about a family of battlers who will get shafted under Labor's new death tax.
I thought Labor fought for battlers?
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Black Orchid
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by Black Orchid » Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:25 pm
Wasn't it Wran who abolished it in NSW? Turnbull would never rule out reintroducing it when the topic came up.
We pay enough taxes throughout our lifetimes and I object strongly to paying more when we die.
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by Bobby » Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:30 pm
Black Orchid wrote: ↑Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:25 pm
Wasn't it Wran who abolished it in NSW? Turnbull would never rule out reintroducing it when the topic came up.
We pay enough taxes throughout our lifetimes and I object strongly to paying more when we die.
Yes - and I repeat my story -
I know a family that will get ripped to pieces by this -
their father died and the 3 "children" could never get more
than a few part time jobs between them so
never managed to get on the property ladder.
That's where they live as adults with their aging mother.
If they have to sell the house when their mother dies
it will destroy them.
Thanks Labor.
Labor is supposed to be protecting battlers -
in this case they will shaft them.
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brian ross
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by brian ross » Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:44 pm
Bobby wrote: ↑Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:47 pm
brian ross wrote: ↑Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:38 pm
What is that Cods is always saying? Oh, yes, people don't property, property owns them. More less correct, I think.
Australian families only own their assets while they are alive, Bobby. Once they're dead, they're dead. As Australian seniors have to sell their homes anyway, to pay for their seniors' care, I don't think these supposed "Death Taxes" are going to hurt them all that much, as far as property is concerned.
Of course, that is if the ALP is even considering the reintroduction of "Death Taxes", which I severely doubt. Discussing it, doesn't mean anything more than a discussion. You know, the left wing Unions say, "Hey, we want to reintroduce Death Taxes!" To which the Parliamentary executive looks at it and says, "Nah. Never going to happen. We want to get elected." What people forget is that the ALP gave up "the pledge" over 40 years ago. The Unions do not control the ALP any more. They fund it, they can influence it but they can't order it to do anything.
Brian,
I know a family that will get ripped to pieces by this -
their father died and the 3 "children" could never get more
than a few part time jobs between them so
never managed to get on the property ladder.
That's where they live as adults with their aging mother.
If they have to sell the house when their mother dies
it will destroy them.
Thanks Labor. Thanks Brian.
Let me repeat myself for the hard of hearing, Bobby.
This is just another scare tactic put out by the Tories. It is not going to happen. Your fears are groundless.
As for your friends, all I can suggest is that they find themselves full time jobs. Oh, wait, the Tories have fucked that up, well and truly, now haven't they? Funny that, hey? Again, you blame the ALP for what the Tories have been doing.
Nationalism is not to be confused with patriotism. - Eric Blair
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brian ross
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by brian ross » Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:46 pm
Black Orchid wrote: ↑Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:49 pm
brian ross wrote: ↑Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:31 pm
Black Orchid wrote: ↑Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:16 pm
brian ross wrote: ↑Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:15 pm
Black Orchid wrote: ↑Mon Feb 11, 2019 6:16 pm
Personally I think everyone is very polite and patient with you Brian considering you fling insults right left and centre.
You can't throw stones and then run and hide under a rock.
If I, "fling insults right left and centre," I am being careless, Black Orchid. If I am "flinging insults" against a particular poster, it's 'cause they have insulted me first. If you think being compared to a "Nazi" is an insult, then stop making statements which can be compared to Nazi statements. You hate Muslims. You are an Islamophobe. I will keep calling you an Islamophobe until you cease to insult Muslims. When you cease, I will cease. Simples really. I am merely identifying your statements for what they are, Black Orchid.
See what I mean?
I could 'identify' you as a lot of things, Brian, but I don't because there is no point as you don't read what is written and then respond with absolute BS.
Oh, I respond with appropriate responses, Black Orchid. You just don't like being given back a serve of your own.
I dislike the Tories. I don't hate them. You, however it seems hate the ALP with a passion. Funny, you'll note that everything I post in criticism of the Tories is based on fact. You seem to believe in bullshit from your Tory friends. Funny that. Same with Cods, Bobby, Mechie, Sprint, Yogi. Interesting, there appears to be only two left wingers on here. Would you prefer I left you to your beliefs? Mmmm?
Show me where I hate the ALP with a passion Brian. I honestly don't know how you come up with this BS.
Show me where you have posted a single positive post about the ALP, Black Orchid. Otherwise, my comment stands.
I have posted quite a few positive posts about the Tory party - where I have decided it is appropriate. Run along, Black Orchid, tell your bullshit to someone who might believe you.
Nationalism is not to be confused with patriotism. - Eric Blair
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by Black Orchid » Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:51 pm
I criticise both parties so go and take your meds Brian I hear the nurse calling you for bed.
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by brian ross » Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:55 pm
Black Orchid wrote: ↑Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:51 pm
I criticise both parties so go and take your meds Brian I hear the nurse calling you for bed.
I am not talking about criticism. I am talking about you posting something positive about the ALP, Black Orchid. There is a difference. I have praised John Howard about his introduction of the gun laws in 1996 numerous times. I have praised him for the creation of the Future Fund. What has the ALP done which you consider positive? Anything at all? My point stands, Black Orchid.
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Bobby
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by Bobby » Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:58 pm
brian ross wrote: ↑Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:44 pm
Let me repeat myself for the hard of hearing, Bobby.
This is just another scare tactic put out by the Tories. It is not going to happen. Your fears are groundless.
As for your friends, all I can suggest is that they find themselves full time jobs. Oh, wait, the Tories have fucked that up, well and truly, now haven't they? Funny that, hey? Again, you blame the ALP for what the Tories have been doing.
dear Brian,
It's not a scare campaign - the backers of Labor want it.
I supplied the proof.
The family I refer to, were never able to get full time jobs over the last 30 years
so it has nothing to do with just the Tories.
Many battlers are in this situation -
you know - the people that Labor claim to represent?
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by brian ross » Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:00 pm
Bobby wrote: ↑Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:58 pm
brian ross wrote: ↑Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:44 pm
Let me repeat myself for the hard of hearing, Bobby.
This is just another scare tactic put out by the Tories. It is not going to happen. Your fears are groundless.
As for your friends, all I can suggest is that they find themselves full time jobs. Oh, wait, the Tories have fucked that up, well and truly, now haven't they? Funny that, hey? Again, you blame the ALP for what the Tories have been doing.
dear Brian,
It's not a scare campaign - the backers of Labor want it.
I supplied the proof.
No, you've supplied evidence that some unions want to discuss this, not that they will get it, Bobby. As I keep pointing out, the Unions do not control the ALP any more and haven't for over the last 40 years.
The family I refer were never able to get full time jobs over the last 30 years
so it has nothing to do with just the Tories.
Many battlers are in this situation -
you know - the people that Labor claim to represent?
It has everything to do with the Tories. They have destroyed full time employment in this country. Their claims about job creation are based on casual employment, not full time employment.
Nationalism is not to be confused with patriotism. - Eric Blair
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Bobby
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by Bobby » Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:17 pm
brian ross wrote: ↑Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:00 pm
No, you've supplied evidence that some unions want to discuss this, not that they will get it, Bobby. As I keep pointing out, the Unions do not control the ALP any more and haven't for over the last 40 years.
It has everything to do with the Tories. They have destroyed full time employment in this country. Their claims about job creation are based on casual employment, not full time employment.
dear Brian,
The unions are a major force behind the Labor policy.
In many ways the Labor party are puppets of the unions.
It's true that there has been a rise in part time jobs under the Tories.
I don't like either major party -
none stand up for what I want.
They do their own thing -
have their own ideas about what's good for us.
They never ask us for what we want unless it's poofter marriage -
no voting referendum on immigration numbers etc.
( even though they could have easily made it part of the upcoming election )
They give us the illusion of choice but really - there is no choice.
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