The Wall is Coming

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Re: The Wall is Coming

Post by brian ross » Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:05 am

This place is very much a bunker, full of people who hate it when I or other realists lift up the lid and let in a little daylight, Serial. So, when are you going to even attempt to answer the points I have made, Mmmm? Or are you going to continue onwards on your path of denial, hey? I understand you believe that path is smooth but reality will keep on intruding as long as you hide your eyes from the light. :roll: :roll:
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Re: The Wall is Coming

Post by brian ross » Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:09 am

cods wrote:
Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:01 pm
brian ross wrote:
Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:58 pm
Unable to face reality, Serial? How unremarkable. You live in your Trump bunker. The rest of us will live in the outside world. :roll: :roll:
you and gweg you mean ... :rofl :rofl :rofl oops and hillary you can eat HATE sandwiches to your hearts content. :rofl :rofl :rofl
I don't hate Trump. He does not affect my life, except indirectly and so I hold no antipathy towards him. I dislike his supporters though, who refuse to look at reality and realise the bullshit they are peddling is just another brand of it. If you were willing to accept realistic explanations things would go much easier.
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Re: The Wall is Coming

Post by cods » Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:38 am

brian ross wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:05 am
This place is very much a bunker, full of people who hate it when I or other realists lift up the lid and let in a little daylight, Serial. So, when are you going to even attempt to answer the points I have made, Mmmm? Or are you going to continue onwards on your path of denial, hey? I understand you believe that path is smooth but reality will keep on intruding as long as you hide your eyes from the light. :roll: :roll:


are you a member of monks fake PA?......they are all lefties over there you would fit in beautifully...

btw you are famous for not answering questions....

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Re: The Wall is Coming

Post by brian ross » Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:01 am

cods wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:38 am
brian ross wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:05 am
This place is very much a bunker, full of people who hate it when I or other realists lift up the lid and let in a little daylight, Serial. So, when are you going to even attempt to answer the points I have made, Mmmm? Or are you going to continue onwards on your path of denial, hey? I understand you believe that path is smooth but reality will keep on intruding as long as you hide your eyes from the light. :roll: :roll:
are you a member of monks fake PA?......they are all lefties over there you would fit in beautifully...
Why would I want to preach to them? They accept reality already, Cods. You lot here seem eager to reject it. My job is to enlighten you.
btw you are famous for not answering questions....
Am I? Really? Care to provide some examples?
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Re: The Wall is Coming

Post by Serial Brain 9 » Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:38 pm

brian ross wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:05 am
This place is very much a bunker, full of people who hate it when I or other realists lift up the lid and let in a little daylight, Serial. So, when are you going to even attempt to answer the points I have made, Mmmm? Or are you going to continue onwards on your path of denial, hey? I understand you believe that path is smooth but reality will keep on intruding as long as you hide your eyes from the light. :roll: :roll:
don't be ridiculous Brian - you cherry picked a few things out of the new contract of which probably has 2000 pages :roll:

the proof will be in the Trade deficits/surplice, jobs, revenue increases etc

there are many aspects - here's one - the Federal Reserve keep jacking up interest rates on Trump trying to blow the market up - its costing American's an extra 500 Billion Dollars PA with those increases and they are talking about more increases - which has tanked the markets by over 4000 points

so we wait and watch

in the mean time - have a look at Mr Open Borders, George Soros house with his MASSIVE WALLS AND SECURITY

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3YfjPe9JH0&t=175s[/youtube]

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Re: The Wall is Coming

Post by brian ross » Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:41 pm

Serial Brain 9 wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:38 pm
brian ross wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:05 am
This place is very much a bunker, full of people who hate it when I or other realists lift up the lid and let in a little daylight, Serial. So, when are you going to even attempt to answer the points I have made, Mmmm? Or are you going to continue onwards on your path of denial, hey? I understand you believe that path is smooth but reality will keep on intruding as long as you hide your eyes from the light. :roll: :roll:
don't be ridiculous Brian - you cherry picked a few things out of the new contract of which probably has 2000 pages :roll:
Ah, but they were considered the "major points", Serial. Time you woke up to what a swindler el Presidente' Trump is. Stop being sucked into his bullshit, use your brain.
the proof will be in the Trade deficits/surplice, jobs, revenue increases etc
All things the American people pay for. Mexicans don't pay anything to the US. Tut, tut, you'll catch on eventually, I suppose - after Trump has swindled you a bit more.
there are many aspects - here's one - the Federal Reserve keep jacking up interest rates on Trump trying to blow the market up - its costing American's an extra 500 Billion Dollars PA with those increases and they are talking about more increases - which has tanked the markets by over 4000 points
The Federal Reserve is trying to manage the US Economy. It has nothing to do with Trump as far as they are concerned. It has everything to do with what the American public are doing and what foreign trade is occurring. Trump seems to think it is aimed directly at him personally. Yeah, bullshit. :roll:
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Re: The Wall is Coming

Post by Neferti » Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:44 pm

brian ross wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:41 pm
Serial Brain 9 wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:38 pm
brian ross wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:05 am
This place is very much a bunker, full of people who hate it when I or other realists lift up the lid and let in a little daylight, Serial. So, when are you going to even attempt to answer the points I have made, Mmmm? Or are you going to continue onwards on your path of denial, hey? I understand you believe that path is smooth but reality will keep on intruding as long as you hide your eyes from the light. :roll: :roll:
don't be ridiculous Brian - you cherry picked a few things out of the new contract of which probably has 2000 pages :roll:
Ah, but they were considered the "major points", Serial. Time you woke up to what a swindler el Presidente' Trump is. Stop being sucked into his bullshit, use your brain.
the proof will be in the Trade deficits/surplice, jobs, revenue increases etc
All things the American people pay for. Mexicans don't pay anything to the US. Tut, tut, you'll catch on eventually, I suppose - after Trump has swindled you a bit more.
there are many aspects - here's one - the Federal Reserve keep jacking up interest rates on Trump trying to blow the market up - its costing American's an extra 500 Billion Dollars PA with those increases and they are talking about more increases - which has tanked the markets by over 4000 points
The Federal Reserve is trying to manage the US Economy. It has nothing to do with Trump as far as they are concerned. It has everything to do with what the American public are doing and what foreign trade is occurring. Trump seems to think it is aimed directly at him personally. Yeah, bullshit. :roll:
Keep your haIr on ... this is a FORUM and nobody cares what your opinion is.

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Re: The Wall is Coming

Post by Valkie » Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:23 pm

I love Trump

If for no other reason, than I use it all the time to harass that looser
Turd mc turdface.
In that other place.

He stated he woukd leave forever if Trump won.
But when Trump won, he backed down like the weasel he is.

Lying, slimy troll and all of his little socks.
What a looser.
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Re: The Wall is Coming

Post by brian ross » Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:02 pm

Neferti~ wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:44 pm
brian ross wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:41 pm
Serial Brain 9 wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:38 pm
brian ross wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:05 am
This place is very much a bunker, full of people who hate it when I or other realists lift up the lid and let in a little daylight, Serial. So, when are you going to even attempt to answer the points I have made, Mmmm? Or are you going to continue onwards on your path of denial, hey? I understand you believe that path is smooth but reality will keep on intruding as long as you hide your eyes from the light. :roll: :roll:
don't be ridiculous Brian - you cherry picked a few things out of the new contract of which probably has 2000 pages :roll:
Ah, but they were considered the "major points", Serial. Time you woke up to what a swindler el Presidente' Trump is. Stop being sucked into his bullshit, use your brain.
the proof will be in the Trade deficits/surplice, jobs, revenue increases etc
All things the American people pay for. Mexicans don't pay anything to the US. Tut, tut, you'll catch on eventually, I suppose - after Trump has swindled you a bit more.
there are many aspects - here's one - the Federal Reserve keep jacking up interest rates on Trump trying to blow the market up - its costing American's an extra 500 Billion Dollars PA with those increases and they are talking about more increases - which has tanked the markets by over 4000 points
The Federal Reserve is trying to manage the US Economy. It has nothing to do with Trump as far as they are concerned. It has everything to do with what the American public are doing and what foreign trade is occurring. Trump seems to think it is aimed directly at him personally. Yeah, bullshit. :roll:
Keep your haIr on ... this is a FORUM and nobody cares what your opinion is.
Really? So, why do you care if I'm wrong, Neferti? Mmmm? :roll:
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Re: The Wall is Coming

Post by brian ross » Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:45 pm

BUMP! Just in case Serial missed it, again... :roll:
brian ross wrote:
Sun Jan 13, 2019 4:55 pm
Serial Brain 9 wrote:
Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:01 pm
brian ross wrote:
Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:26 pm
Americans are going to be forced to pay for the wall. QED.
Mexico is already paying for it after Trump renegotiated a new trade deal saving America Billions of dollars :thumb
Lets examine that a little more closely (and rationally), shall we?

NAFTA is no more. Now it is called USMCA.
Here are the biggest changes:

Country of origin rules: Automobiles must have 75 percent of their components manufactured in Mexico, the US, or Canada to qualify for zero tariffs (up from 62.5 percent under NAFTA).

Labor provisions: 40 to 45 percent of automobile parts have to be made by workers who earn at least $16 an hour by 2023. Mexico has also agreed to pass laws giving workers the right to union representation, extending labor protections to migrant workers, and protecting women from discrimination. The countries can also sanction one another for labor violations.

US farmers get more access to the Canadian dairy market: The US got Canada to open up its dairy market to US farmers, which was a big issue for Trump.

Intellectual property and digital trade: The deal extends the terms of copyright to 70 years beyond the life of the author (up from 50). It also extends the period that a pharmaceutical drug can be protected from generic competition, and includes new provisions to deal with the digital economy, including prohibiting duties on things like music and e-books, and protections for internet companies so they’re not liable for content their users produce.

No section 232 tariff protections: Section 232 is a trade loophole that Trump used to impose steel and aluminum tariffs on Canada, Mexico, and the European Union. Canada and Mexico wanted protections from these tariffs as part of the NAFTA negotiations, and the fact that tariffs are still in place remains a sore subject, particularly for Canada. Canada and Mexico did get the US to make a side agreement that shields them from possible auto tariffs under 232.

Sunset clause: The agreement adds a 16-year “sunset” clause — meaning the terms of the agreement expire, or “sunset,” after a set period of time. The deal is also subject to a review every six years, at which point the US, Mexico, and Canada can decide to extend the USMCA.
[Source]

So, care to demonstrate how any of those changes are going to make Mexico pay for a wall which America wants to erect? Mmmm? Lets see some substance to your claims that Mexico will pay for a change, rather than just your airy-fairy bullshit. I want to see PROOF that Mexico will pay.
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