The Wall is Coming

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Re: The Wall is Coming

Post by cods » Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:58 am

brian ross wrote:
Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:49 pm
cods wrote:
Fri Jan 11, 2019 8:38 am
mind you we are no better we have some one in our senate who actually got 19 votes........can you beat that?
Actually we don't. Fraser Anning received no votes. He replaced Malcolm Roberts who was disqualified because he was not an Australian citizen when he stood for election, Cods. Malcolm Roberts received 19 votes. Fraser Anning has never faced the Australian people in a general election.



well thats not what this newspaper said..
[urlhttps://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affai ... e3e78f4b13][/url]


Apart from a few members of his family, Fraser Anning doubts if he knows any of the 19 people who cast their first-preference vote for him at last year’s federal election.

The father of two and grandfather, who last year was working in the gas industry until “something else came along’’, was yesterday confirmed by the High Court as the newest One Nation senator for Queensland.

Filling the shoes of Malcolm Roberts, among those disqualified from parliament for holding dual citizenship, Senator-elect Anning has the humbling distinction of being elected with what is thought to be the lowest personal vote in Australian history.

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The 20-year One Nation member, who secured single votes in some of the towns where he has owned or run pubs, said he thought his chance of election was so remote he didn’t bother telling friends he was running.

Senator-elect Anning was third on One Nation’s Queensland Senate ticket, led by Pauline Hanson and Mr Roberts, who received just 77 votes for himself out of the 250,126 people who voted for the resurgent party.



THIS IS BEYOND COMMONSENSE......IT HAS TO STOP......

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Re: The Wall is Coming

Post by brian ross » Sat Jan 12, 2019 2:54 pm

Serial Brain 9 wrote:
Sat Jan 12, 2019 7:01 am
brian ross wrote:
Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:45 pm
Serial Brain 9 wrote:
Fri Jan 11, 2019 10:28 pm
listen to what Trump said through the Campaign about who was going to fund the wall and HOW!!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REqDnlTXBVU&t=18s[/youtube]

so people like Brian, stop bullshitting please - that would be Great :bgrin

Trump never said that Mexico was going to write them a blank cheque to build the wall, he said that through trade deals they would fund it - like NAFTA for instance

why is it so hard to understand ??

or is it, that you do understand but you refuse to acknowledge it in front of the forum?

I think the latter... :roll:
So, basically Trump lied when he said that Mexico would pay for the wall, right? In reality, it is the American citizens who will pay for the wall. There is no way legally for Trump to extract money from Mexico to pay for his wall. He will instead impose tariffs on Mexican goods and services and who will pay those tariffs? The American citizenry. So please, stop obfuscating about who is going to pay for the wall. It will be America, not Mexico. :roll:
Wrong

watch the link I gave you for goodness sakes :roll:


Why? It is just one point countered by many more quotes from Trump that he would get Mexico to pay for the wall...

Trump says he'll get Mexico to pay for the wall through renegotiating NAFTA - and/or a Tax or something similar

what did Trump do?

He renegotiated the terrible one sided NAFTA deal in which Americans save Billions of Dollars

Mexico IS paying for the wall


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REqDnlTX ... Fs3LNK1I9y[/youtube]
Trump cannot make Mexicans pay taxes to America. He can, however, make Americans pay taxes. His "renegotiation" of NAFTA were basically about labour contributions not monetary penalties.

So, how is he going to get the Mexicans to pay for the wall? He isn't. He is going to make the American citizenry pay for the wall.

Oh, and what about the reports that the existing section of wall was created using mild steel - steel which can be cut easily by a household saw. Ooops, now, that is going to really stop people crossing it, yeah. :roll:
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Re: The Wall is Coming

Post by Serial Brain 9 » Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:23 pm

And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose.

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Re: The Wall is Coming

Post by cods » Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:33 pm

troub le is SB you can lead a man to water but you cant make him read that and or understand it..

people have a brain mechanism that they put on auto... and it stops certain things from penetrating

this is what you and trump are up against.

you know and I know this is all being done to destroy TRUMP...nothing surer.....

so much forthe Democrats standing with their hands on the hearts for the flag and anthem..... what lie..

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Re: The Wall is Coming

Post by brian ross » Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:26 pm

Americans are going to be forced to pay for the wall. QED.
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Re: The Wall is Coming

Post by Serial Brain 9 » Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:01 pm

brian ross wrote:
Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:26 pm
Americans are going to be forced to pay for the wall. QED.
Mexico is already paying for it after Trump renegotiated a new trade deal saving America Billions of dollars :thumb

Meanwhile

Nancy Pelosi's idea to stop immigrants from coming over the Border is to take Lawn Mowers down to the Border to get things fixed up - Crisis averted :b

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Re: The Wall is Coming

Post by Serial Brain 9 » Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:05 pm

Pelosi suggests “mowing the grass” instead of building border wall :nah



This woman is as dumb as a rock - how on earth did she become speaker of the house? :WTF

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Re: The Wall is Coming

Post by cods » Sun Jan 13, 2019 4:26 pm

WOW is that really where she live?????>..

wow I bet that made even Trumps eyes pop....

they do live in a different world dont they?....

do you never get people who have lived a normal lets say average life

run for politics over there???? they all seem to live very high off the hog..

the Kennedys being a prime example..

not sure thats healthy!

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Re: The Wall is Coming

Post by brian ross » Sun Jan 13, 2019 4:55 pm

Serial Brain 9 wrote:
Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:01 pm
brian ross wrote:
Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:26 pm
Americans are going to be forced to pay for the wall. QED.
Mexico is already paying for it after Trump renegotiated a new trade deal saving America Billions of dollars :thumb
Lets examine that a little more closely (and rationally), shall we?

NAFTA is no more. Now it is called USMCA.
Here are the biggest changes:

Country of origin rules: Automobiles must have 75 percent of their components manufactured in Mexico, the US, or Canada to qualify for zero tariffs (up from 62.5 percent under NAFTA).

Labor provisions: 40 to 45 percent of automobile parts have to be made by workers who earn at least $16 an hour by 2023. Mexico has also agreed to pass laws giving workers the right to union representation, extending labor protections to migrant workers, and protecting women from discrimination. The countries can also sanction one another for labor violations.

US farmers get more access to the Canadian dairy market: The US got Canada to open up its dairy market to US farmers, which was a big issue for Trump.

Intellectual property and digital trade: The deal extends the terms of copyright to 70 years beyond the life of the author (up from 50). It also extends the period that a pharmaceutical drug can be protected from generic competition, and includes new provisions to deal with the digital economy, including prohibiting duties on things like music and e-books, and protections for internet companies so they’re not liable for content their users produce.

No section 232 tariff protections: Section 232 is a trade loophole that Trump used to impose steel and aluminum tariffs on Canada, Mexico, and the European Union. Canada and Mexico wanted protections from these tariffs as part of the NAFTA negotiations, and the fact that tariffs are still in place remains a sore subject, particularly for Canada. Canada and Mexico did get the US to make a side agreement that shields them from possible auto tariffs under 232.

Sunset clause: The agreement adds a 16-year “sunset” clause — meaning the terms of the agreement expire, or “sunset,” after a set period of time. The deal is also subject to a review every six years, at which point the US, Mexico, and Canada can decide to extend the USMCA.
[Source]

So, care to demonstrate how any of those changes are going to make Mexico pay for a wall which America wants to erect? Mmmm? Lets see some substance to your claims that Mexico will pay for a change, rather than just your airy-fairy bullshit. I want to see PROOF that Mexico will pay.
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Re: The Wall is Coming

Post by Black Orchid » Sun Jan 13, 2019 5:29 pm

Serial Brain 9 wrote:
Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:05 pm
Pelosi suggests “mowing the grass” instead of building border wall :nah



This woman is as dumb as a rock - how on earth did she become speaker of the house? :WTF
Mow the grass :rofl

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