Imams enraged with Morrison

[Bobby]

Yaddah is correct - he posts this almost every day:


..the curse of Allah is on those without Faith."
Koran 2.089


"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98


"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11


"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain:...."
Koran 9.111



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THE HADITH....

"...the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him."

- DEAD.
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.260

[brian ross]

Bourke St: I am feeling nothing less than rage, alienation and despair

[brian ross]

If these peeps were running around Australia killing people in the name of their religion, I feel confident they would be called on it Brian

The point is, "these people" are running "around Australia killing people." Look in your newspapers, they are filled with reports of Christians/Buddhists/Hindus/Jews/any other religion you care to name BUT their co-religionists aren't called to account on their actions. This only happens with Muslims. Until I see the Islamophobes calling Christians/Buddhists/Hindus/Jews/any other religion to heel, for it's failure to control it's members, I'll still call them Islamophobes.

So you are saying we should delve into the backround of every killer to acertain their religious beliefs ?

Why not? It seems to be the usual way in which "Muslims" are treated, so why not all other religious affiliations as well? Or is it too hard, too equitable to do so?

so shouting Allah is God.. Allahu Akbar.....is not a Muslim terrorist war cry....

It has become one, Cods. It started out as a simple prayer, originally...

which! unless you prove otherwise

I have yet to hear any CHristian group having a similar war cry when they kill randomly

why not put us all out of our misery bri bri... and just tell us ONE GROUP of CHRISTIANS who have blown the living shit out of innocent people..

and screamed glory to god...

that shouldnt be too hard for a clever chappy like you.

Why Mark Anthony Conditt – a white Christian – isn't called a terrorist

Read the Wikipedia article on Christian Terrorism, Cods. Educate yourself for a change, please!

[Rorschach]

Rubbish article re the kid bwian did not prove religious terrorism.

Whereas declaring you kill people in the name of your religion and God does....

Oh dear...

As for the wiki stuff.... lol, Islam does this everyday bwian... how many years did that article cover and how many Christians actually support the killing of innocents... just today and yesterday bwian the Malaysian PM and ministers from Indonesia warned of grassroots uprising and reprisals due to us having an Embassy in the capital of Israel.

[Valkie]

Muzzos do not negotiate.......they threaten

Muzzos do not compromise........they demand

Muzzos don't accept discussion.........they ignore and insult

Muzzos do not tell the truth........they lie and cheat.

This is Islam
This is what their toilet paper book tells them to do
This CULT is not and can never fit into civilized healthy society.

The Imran perpetrate the lies and evil acts defined in the toilet paper book.

And they lie about everything.
They do not want peace
They do not want to ASSIMILATE
They want one thing and one thing only

TOTAL AND ABSOLUTE CONTROL.

And control by the CULT OF SATAN is not what normal healthy people can survive.

[sprintcyclist]

Muzzos do not negotiate.......they threaten

Muzzos do not compromise........they demand

Muzzos don't accept discussion.........they ignore and insult

Muzzos do not tell the truth........they lie and cheat.

This is Islam
This is what their toilet paper book tells them to do
This CULT is not and can never fit into civilized healthy society.

The Imran perpetrate the lies and evil acts defined in the toilet paper book.

And they lie about everything.
They do not want peace
They do not want to ASSIMILATE
They want one thing and one thing only

TOTAL AND ABSOLUTE CONTROL.

And control by the CULT OF SATAN is not what normal healthy people can survive.

That is my experiences with many muslims

[Rorschach]

Let our leaders speak the truth
Gerard Henderson
Columnist
12:00AM November 17, 2018

Many Australians want their politicians to be authentic and to speak the truth as they see it. The problem is that others are in denial about reality. Scott Morrison’s reaction to the murder of Pellegrini’s co-owner Sisto Malaspina on Bourke Street in the Melbourne CBD last week, and the reaction by journalist Paul Bongiorno, illustrates the point.

In response to the terrorist attack by Somali-born Australian Hassan Khalif Shire Ali, the Prime Minister said “the greatest threat of religious extremism in this country is the radical and dangerous ideology of extremist Islam”. He added that Muslim religious leaders had a special obligation to “ensure that dangerous teachings and ideologies do not take place here”.

This is the kind of unambiguous statement democratic leaders should be making. However, Morrison was verballed and attacked by Bongiorno on ABC Radio National’s RN Breakfast on Tuesday. Bongiorno is a columnist for left-wing publication The Saturday Paper and a paid political commentator on RN Breakfast.

Initially, Bongiorno told RN Breakfast presenter Fran Kelly that Shire Ali was “a demented and radicalised extremist”. It has not been established that Shire Ali was demented.

Here Bongiorno adopted the familiar leftist approach to Islamist terrorism, which attests that such terrorists suffer from a mental illness. This is grievously unfair to those who live with mental illness, the overwhelming majority of whom do not engage in acts of violence.

Bongiorno’s position was that because one demented and radicalised extremist commits an act of terror “doesn’t mean to say that everyone who adheres to that religion is of the same mind”. No it doesn’t. But the Prime Minister never said it did.

Bongiorno went on to state that contemporary terrorism “is more complicated than blaming one religion”. Again, this is mere verballing. Morrison made it clear that he was blaming “extremist Islam” for the Bourke Street murder and similar attacks, not all Muslims and not Islam as such.

It is true that the overwhelming majority of Muslim Australians are fine and peaceful citizens or residents. It is also true that in the past two decades Islamist extremists have been involved in acts of murder or violence at Endeavour Hills (Melbourne), the Sydney CBD, Parramatta, Brighton (Melbourne), Mill Park (Melbourne) and the Melbourne CBD.

Also, as Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton confirmed on Monday, Australia’s security and intelligence and police services have been able to thwart 14 terrorist attempts.

On Thursday, The Australian broke the story that four Sunni Muslim Australians, all of whom are home grown, were convicted recently of conspiracy to launch a terrorist attack in Melbourne on Christmas Day 2016. A ban on the media reporting these convictions was lifted by the Victorian Court of Appeal on Wednesday.

Evidence presented at the trial indicates that, if successful, this would have been the worst such attack in Australian history. The convicted men intended to bomb the area between Federation Square and St Paul’s Anglican Cathedral and also attack, with cars and knives, those celebrating Christmas. It would have been a mass murder of the kind that took place in recent years in Barcelona, Berlin, Brussels, Istanbul, London, Manchester, Nice and Paris.

When John Howard’s Coalition increased Australia’s security awareness in the wake of the attacks on New York and Washington in 2001 and in Bali the following year, the message went out to be “alert but not alarmed”. This message was mocked by some of Howard’s leftist critics. But it worked — with the support of the Labor Party.

Duncan Lewis, director-general of ASIO, has revealed that a young female ASIO operative was alert enough to notice young men purchasing bomb-making chemicals at a late-night chemist shop. Quick work by ASIO plus federal and state police led to the arrest of the conspirators before Christmas Day 2016.

It so happens that Hamza Abbas, Ibrahim Abbas, Abdullah Chaarani and Ahmed Mohamed (who were convicted on November 2) and Shire Ali (who murdered Malaspina on November 9) had an association with the Hume Islamic Youth Centre in the Melbourne suburb of Coolaroo.

As reported by Chip Le Grand in The Australian on Wednesday, Sheik Mohammed Omran (the centre’s spiritual leader) dismissed what he called “the bloody Prime Minister” for calling on Muslim religious leaders to do more to curtail radical Islamism. According to Omran, the police and intelligence services are responsible for not stopping Shire Ali’s attack.

This is an irresponsible statement. It is also counter-productive in that it is not in the interests of the wider Muslim community in Australia for one of its spiritual leaders to give the impression that someone other than the Bourke Street murderer is responsible for his actions.

Shire Ali was on the ASIO watch list along with 400 other Australian citizens or residents. It is virtually impossible for a nation of Australia’s population to monitor the daily activities of all potential terrorists.

In such a climate, it is unprofessional for influential journalists such as Bongiorno to tell Muslim Australians that their Prime ­Minister believes that all Muslims are of the same mind as Shire Ali. That suggests a discrimination against Islam that does not exist in Australia and ignores the fact many Muslims support Morrison’s strong stance.

Bongiorno sounds a lot like bwian doesn't he....

[sprintcyclist]

Let our leaders speak the truth
Gerard Henderson
Columnist
12:00AM November 17, 2018

Many Australians want their politicians to be authentic and to speak the truth as they see it. The problem is that others are in denial about reality. Scott Morrison’s reaction to the murder of Pellegrini’s co-owner Sisto Malaspina on Bourke Street in the Melbourne CBD last week, and the reaction by journalist Paul Bongiorno, illustrates the point.

In response to the terrorist attack by Somali-born Australian Hassan Khalif Shire Ali, the Prime Minister said “the greatest threat of religious extremism in this country is the radical and dangerous ideology of extremist Islam”. He added that Muslim religious leaders had a special obligation to “ensure that dangerous teachings and ideologies do not take place here”.

This is the kind of unambiguous statement democratic leaders should be making. However, Morrison was verballed and attacked by Bongiorno on ABC Radio National’s RN Breakfast on Tuesday. Bongiorno is a columnist for left-wing publication The Saturday Paper and a paid political commentator on RN Breakfast.

Initially, Bongiorno told RN Breakfast presenter Fran Kelly that Shire Ali was “a demented and radicalised extremist”. It has not been established that Shire Ali was demented.

Here Bongiorno adopted the familiar leftist approach to Islamist terrorism, which attests that such terrorists suffer from a mental illness. This is grievously unfair to those who live with mental illness, the overwhelming majority of whom do not engage in acts of violence.

Bongiorno’s position was that because one demented and radicalised extremist commits an act of terror “doesn’t mean to say that everyone who adheres to that religion is of the same mind”. No it doesn’t. But the Prime Minister never said it did.

Bongiorno went on to state that contemporary terrorism “is more complicated than blaming one religion”. Again, this is mere verballing. Morrison made it clear that he was blaming “extremist Islam” for the Bourke Street murder and similar attacks, not all Muslims and not Islam as such.

It is true that the overwhelming majority of Muslim Australians are fine and peaceful citizens or residents. It is also true that in the past two decades Islamist extremists have been involved in acts of murder or violence at Endeavour Hills (Melbourne), the Sydney CBD, Parramatta, Brighton (Melbourne), Mill Park (Melbourne) and the Melbourne CBD.

Also, as Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton confirmed on Monday, Australia’s security and intelligence and police services have been able to thwart 14 terrorist attempts.

On Thursday, The Australian broke the story that four Sunni Muslim Australians, all of whom are home grown, were convicted recently of conspiracy to launch a terrorist attack in Melbourne on Christmas Day 2016. A ban on the media reporting these convictions was lifted by the Victorian Court of Appeal on Wednesday.

Evidence presented at the trial indicates that, if successful, this would have been the worst such attack in Australian history. The convicted men intended to bomb the area between Federation Square and St Paul’s Anglican Cathedral and also attack, with cars and knives, those celebrating Christmas. It would have been a mass murder of the kind that took place in recent years in Barcelona, Berlin, Brussels, Istanbul, London, Manchester, Nice and Paris.

When John Howard’s Coalition increased Australia’s security awareness in the wake of the attacks on New York and Washington in 2001 and in Bali the following year, the message went out to be “alert but not alarmed”. This message was mocked by some of Howard’s leftist critics. But it worked — with the support of the Labor Party.

Duncan Lewis, director-general of ASIO, has revealed that a young female ASIO operative was alert enough to notice young men purchasing bomb-making chemicals at a late-night chemist shop. Quick work by ASIO plus federal and state police led to the arrest of the conspirators before Christmas Day 2016.

It so happens that Hamza Abbas, Ibrahim Abbas, Abdullah Chaarani and Ahmed Mohamed (who were convicted on November 2) and Shire Ali (who murdered Malaspina on November 9) had an association with the Hume Islamic Youth Centre in the Melbourne suburb of Coolaroo.

As reported by Chip Le Grand in The Australian on Wednesday, Sheik Mohammed Omran (the centre’s spiritual leader) dismissed what he called “the bloody Prime Minister” for calling on Muslim religious leaders to do more to curtail radical Islamism. According to Omran, the police and intelligence services are responsible for not stopping Shire Ali’s attack.

This is an irresponsible statement. It is also counter-productive in that it is not in the interests of the wider Muslim community in Australia for one of its spiritual leaders to give the impression that someone other than the Bourke Street murderer is responsible for his actions.

Shire Ali was on the ASIO watch list along with 400 other Australian citizens or residents. It is virtually impossible for a nation of Australia’s population to monitor the daily activities of all potential terrorists.

In such a climate, it is unprofessional for influential journalists such as Bongiorno to tell Muslim Australians that their Prime ­Minister believes that all Muslims are of the same mind as Shire Ali. That suggests a discrimination against Islam that does not exist in Australia and ignores the fact many Muslims support Morrison’s strong stance.

Bongiorno sounds a lot like bwian doesn't he....

Bongiorno sounds like a problem to me.

[Rorschach]

Let's all just hope Morrison doesn't kowtow to these dopes and their demands.

Muslim leaders to boycott Scott Morrison’s terrorism roundtable
Richard Ferguson
November 21, 2018

Muslim leaders, including the Grand Mufti, will shun a round table meeting with Scott Morrison this week following his comments calling on them to do more to stop terrorism in Australia.

Grand Mufti Ibrahim Abu Mohamed joined the leaders of state and federal Islamic groups today to release a statement declaring they will boycott the proposed government round table this week to discuss extremism.

The statement comes after three men in Melbourne were charged with terrorism offences with police alleging they planned to shoot at crowds, and a fortnight after the Bourke Street terrorist attack.

“Many in the Muslim community including the undersigned are deeply concerned and disappointed with statements made by senior Government ministers and the Prime Minister in the recent past which infer that the community is collectively culpable for the criminal actions of individuals,” the joint statement reads.

“These statements have achieved nothing to address underlying issues, but rather, have alienated large segments of the Muslim community.”

The Prime Minister said in the wake of the Bourke Street attack that he would not accept “excuses” about terror from Muslim leaders and called on them to help security services more.

Islamic leaders say in their statement that they will reschedule a meeting with Mr Morrison if he agrees to certain terms and that he will “respect” their viewpoints.

Signatories to the statement include controversial imam Shady Al Suleiman, the leaders of the Islamic Council of Victoria, the Islamic Council of Queensland, and the Australian Federation of Islamic Councils.

“In order to have a meaningful meeting that will result in positive outcomes, attendees must be confident that their views and concerns will be genuinely respected and that such a forum will not be used to emphasise the very sentiments that the Muslim community consider to be invalid and divisive,” the Islamic leaders’ statement reads.

“The stated objective of the meeting does not provide any such confidence.”

The Prime Minister has been approached for comment.

Not exactly filling the rest of us with confidence I'm guessing. Just who do they think they are exactly?

We are not killing them here.
No other religious groups is running around with suicidal, homicidal, lunatics in its midst, putting the rest of us in danger.
Might be a good time to change the rules and shrink our ever expanding population and social disharmony with a few well placed deportations.

[Valkie]

First and foremost

WHO THE F#$K DO THESE F$%KING DEADSHITES THINK THEY ARE?

Honestly, 95% of these DEADSHITES don't and never will work.

Enough is enough
Piss off the Imran
DEPORT the muffdick
Close down the mosques
Ban the burquas
And give them free tickets to the hell holes they slimmed their way out of.

We don't need, want nor deserve these F#$KING morons

Time to close the doors and throw out the Islamic trash.