Trump will close Mexico border

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Re: Trump will close Mexico border

Post by brian ross » Sun Nov 04, 2018 10:48 pm

cods wrote:
Sun Nov 04, 2018 11:07 am
I would have thought Mexico was just as SAFE as the USA..
Mexico has one of the highest murder rates in the world, Cods. Higher in Northern Mexico than in the US.
has brian answered my question on how he would receive a whole gaggle of uninvited guests.... at briansvilla...????????
Several times. Have you bothered to read it and understand the replies or are you just erecting strawman arguments? Mmmm?
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Re: Trump will close Mexico border

Post by Valkie » Mon Nov 05, 2018 5:43 am

brian ross wrote:
Sun Nov 04, 2018 10:46 pm
sprintcyclist wrote:
Sun Nov 04, 2018 5:26 am
Every country has the right to allow or bar anyone from entering their borders.
No country, which is a signatory to the UN Convention on Refugees, has the right to deny Asylum to any applicant. Both the US and Australia are signatories to that Convention. Time to accept our responsibility under that Convention.
So the United (muzzo) Nations have decided that they rule the world.

They have decided that countries can not dictate their own borders

They have introduced a rule that destroys a countries ability to protect its people.

Tell me, exactly what is the U.N. good for?
Apart from helping muzzos to populate the world with primitives?
Oh, and making lots of cash for the organizers?

The U.N. needs to be disbanded.......NOW
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Re: Trump will close Mexico border

Post by BigP » Mon Nov 05, 2018 9:14 am

These people are economic migrants not refugees Brian, If they were seeking refuge they would apply for it in Mexico as they are already in the country

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Re: Trump will close Mexico border

Post by FLEKTARN » Mon Nov 05, 2018 9:27 am

BigP wrote:
Mon Nov 05, 2018 9:14 am
These people are economic migrants not refugees Brian, If they were seeking refuge they would apply for it in Mexico as they are already in the country
They will like America's free handouts.
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Re: Trump will close Mexico border

Post by cods » Mon Nov 05, 2018 9:37 am

brian ross wrote:
Sun Nov 04, 2018 10:48 pm
cods wrote:
Sun Nov 04, 2018 11:07 am
I would have thought Mexico was just as SAFE as the USA..
Mexico has one of the highest murder rates in the world, Cods. Higher in Northern Mexico than in the US.

AMERIKA ALSO HAS A EXTREMELY HIGH MURDER RATE
has brian answered my question on how he would receive a whole gaggle of uninvited guests.... at briansvilla...????????
Several times. Have you bothered to read it and understand the replies or are you just erecting strawman arguments? Mmmm?

NOT REALLY BRIAN ALL I SAW WAS YOU CLAIMING YOU WOULD TELL THEM TO DESIST IF THEY DID SOMETHING YOU DIDNT LIKE.... :rofl :rofl

1000 persons brian would you really open your home just like that and accept that you will keep them maybe for the term of their natural lives.......

would you really brian?

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Re: Trump will close Mexico border

Post by sprintcyclist » Mon Nov 05, 2018 1:27 pm

FLEKTARN wrote:
Mon Nov 05, 2018 9:27 am
BigP wrote:
Mon Nov 05, 2018 9:14 am
These people are economic migrants not refugees Brian, If they were seeking refuge they would apply for it in Mexico as they are already in the country
They will like America's free handouts.

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Re: Trump will close Mexico border

Post by brian ross » Mon Nov 05, 2018 2:46 pm

BigP wrote:
Mon Nov 05, 2018 9:14 am
These people are economic migrants not refugees Brian, If they were seeking refuge they would apply for it in Mexico as they are already in the country
They claim they are fleeing crime and lawlessness, BigP. Both are IMO good reasons to claim to be a Refugee and seek Asylum in another country. Under the UN Convention there is nothing about "country shopping" or anything else which can be used to prevent an Asylum Seeker claiming Asylum.

Countries have signed onto the UN Convention. They have said they will provide Asylum to those that seek it from them. There is provision, once signed, to withdraw from the Convention. No country that I am aware of has. However, countries withdrawing have to consider what message that sends to the world. Do they really want to be considered the same as the countries which have not signed the Convention?

Despite what some people claim, the UN is not a Muslim run organisation. The UN Convention was created in the aftermath of WWII when refugees were routinely denied entry into another country. Look at the history of the US. It denied entry for MS St. Louis, an Ocean Liner of Jewish refugees from Germany, before WWII began. They were also denied entry to Canada and Cuba. In the end, they were forced to sail back to Germany and internment in the Concentration Camps and eventual death. Not a nice thing to occur to innocent people who's only "crime" was to worship a different God to the majority.
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Re: Trump will close Mexico border

Post by brian ross » Mon Nov 05, 2018 3:05 pm

cods wrote:
Mon Nov 05, 2018 9:37 am
brian ross wrote:
Sun Nov 04, 2018 10:48 pm
cods wrote:
Sun Nov 04, 2018 11:07 am
I would have thought Mexico was just as SAFE as the USA..
Mexico has one of the highest murder rates in the world, Cods. Higher in Northern Mexico than in the US.[/qute]

AMERIKA ALSO HAS A EXTREMELY HIGH MURDER RATE
Not as high as Mexico, Cods:

2017 was Mexico's deadliest year on record, with 31,174 murders recorded, leading to a murder rate of 25 per 100,000 inhabitants in 2017, compared with 19.4 in 2011.
[Source]

There were a total of 17,284 reported murder and non-negligent manslaughter cases in the U.S. in 2017. Although the number of cases has declined in the past twenty years, when viewed in international comparison, the U.S. murder rate is still high.
[Source]
has brian answered my question on how he would receive a whole gaggle of uninvited guests.... at briansvilla...????????
Several times. Have you bothered to read it and understand the replies or are you just erecting strawman arguments? Mmmm?
NOT REALLY BRIAN ALL I SAW WAS YOU CLAIMING YOU WOULD TELL THEM TO DESIST IF THEY DID SOMETHING YOU DIDNT LIKE.... :rofl :rofl

1000 persons brian would you really open your home just like that and accept that you will keep them maybe for the term of their natural lives.......

would you really brian?
And how would I resist 1000 people, Cods?

I do not own a firearm, nor do I normally need to own one in Australia as I am extremely unlikely to ever be faced with a situation where I would need one. Short of a submachine gun, personally I cannot see a means of preventing them gaining access to my house, Cods.

So, how would you resist 1000 people at your doorstep requesting entry, Mmmm?
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Re: Trump will close Mexico border

Post by Black Orchid » Mon Nov 05, 2018 3:14 pm

brian ross wrote:
Mon Nov 05, 2018 2:46 pm
They claim they are fleeing crime and lawlessness, BigP. Both are IMO good reasons to claim to be a Refugee and seek Asylum in another country. Under the UN Convention there is nothing about "country shopping" or anything else which can be used to prevent an Asylum Seeker claiming Asylum.

Countries have signed onto the UN Convention. They have said they will provide Asylum to those that seek it from them. There is provision, once signed, to withdraw from the Convention. No country that I am aware of has. However, countries withdrawing have to consider what message that sends to the world. Do they really want to be considered the same as the countries which have not signed the Convention?
Mexico is a signatory to the UN Refugee Convention but they don't want to live in Mexico do they? They want handouts and welfare and, as such, are walking right through Mexico.

That makes them ECONOMIC MIGRANTS. :roll:

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Re: Trump will close Mexico border

Post by brian ross » Mon Nov 05, 2018 3:23 pm

Black Orchid wrote:
Mon Nov 05, 2018 3:14 pm
brian ross wrote:
Mon Nov 05, 2018 2:46 pm
They claim they are fleeing crime and lawlessness, BigP. Both are IMO good reasons to claim to be a Refugee and seek Asylum in another country. Under the UN Convention there is nothing about "country shopping" or anything else which can be used to prevent an Asylum Seeker claiming Asylum.

Countries have signed onto the UN Convention. They have said they will provide Asylum to those that seek it from them. There is provision, once signed, to withdraw from the Convention. No country that I am aware of has. However, countries withdrawing have to consider what message that sends to the world. Do they really want to be considered the same as the countries which have not signed the Convention?
Mexico is a signatory to the UN Refugee Convention but they don't want to live in Mexico do they? They want handouts and welfare and, as such, are walking right through Mexico.

That makes them ECONOMIC MIGRANTS. :roll:
Show me where, in the UN Convention on Refugees there is a definition what constitutes an "economic migrant," Black Orchid.
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