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Re: Trump will close Mexico border

Post by Rorschach » Sun Oct 21, 2018 8:38 pm

Even under the UN Refugee Convention they would be considered country shoppers and found not to be genuine refugees since they have passed through countries where they would be safe.
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Re: Trump will close Mexico border

Post by cods » Mon Oct 22, 2018 8:05 am

send them back and help them fix the problems

it isnt rocket science to grow food for gods sakes...

it appears the gangs have now taken over Honduras... is this what its coming too????

brian are you in favour of these Sth American countries being full of drug cartels..????????

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Re: Trump will close Mexico border

Post by IQS.RLOW » Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:20 am

cods wrote:
Mon Oct 22, 2018 8:05 am
send them back and help them fix the problems
The left, being intrinsically thieves, xenophobic and racist will always back stealing the best citizens a poor country has and leaving their home country worse off than they were.
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Re: Trump will close Mexico border

Post by brian ross » Mon Oct 22, 2018 1:50 pm

cods wrote:
Mon Oct 22, 2018 8:05 am
send them back and help them fix the problems

it isnt rocket science to grow food for gods sakes...

it appears the gangs have now taken over Honduras... is this what its coming too????

brian are you in favour of these Sth American countries being full of drug cartels..????????
Of course not, Cods.

As you said, it isn't rocket science. Trump likes to proclaim his genius all the time but he has done nothing like that. He just wants to prevent them entering the US. He doesn't care what the US has done to create the conditions in their home countries which they are fleeing.

What is required is for the US to stop treating "south of the border" as a place to be exploited. That will never happen though. Cuba had the right idea - throw the Mafia and the Sugar companies out. Educate the masses and try and create work for them in Cuba or send them overseas to work. I have a friend who manages a hospital in Dubai - it is staffed by Cubans.
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Re: Trump will close Mexico border

Post by BigP » Mon Oct 22, 2018 4:13 pm

""He just wants to prevent them entering the US""

Like it or not Brian, so do the majority of Americans, These people have no legal or moral rite to enter the US

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Re: Trump will close Mexico border

Post by Rorschach » Mon Oct 22, 2018 5:37 pm

brian ross wrote:
Mon Oct 22, 2018 1:50 pm
cods wrote:
Mon Oct 22, 2018 8:05 am
send them back and help them fix the problems

it isnt rocket science to grow food for gods sakes...

it appears the gangs have now taken over Honduras... is this what its coming too????

brian are you in favour of these Sth American countries being full of drug cartels..????????
Of course not, Cods.

As you said, it isn't rocket science. Trump likes to proclaim his genius all the time but he has done nothing like that. He just wants to prevent them entering the US. He doesn't care what the US has done to create the conditions in their home countries which they are fleeing.

What is required is for the US to stop treating "south of the border" as a place to be exploited. That will never happen though. Cuba had the right idea - throw the Mafia and the Sugar companies out. Educate the masses and try and create work for them in Cuba or send them overseas to work. I have a friend who manages a hospital in Dubai - it is staffed by Cubans.
Oh and what have the US done bwian, now no regurgitating fictional books or movies and no conspiranut crap ok.
Hard facts for a change eh.

Cuba eh... your idea of socialist paradise no doubt :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
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Re: Trump will close Mexico border

Post by Valkie » Mon Oct 22, 2018 5:42 pm

BigP wrote:
Mon Oct 22, 2018 4:13 pm
""He just wants to prevent them entering the US""

Like it or not Brian, so do the majority of Americans, These people have no legal or moral rite to enter the US
Not just the Americans.
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Re: Trump will close Mexico border

Post by brian ross » Mon Oct 22, 2018 6:06 pm

BigP wrote:
Mon Oct 22, 2018 4:13 pm
""He just wants to prevent them entering the US""

Like it or not Brian, so do the majority of Americans, These people have no legal or moral rite to enter the US
Depends if they come as Refugees or not, mate. Under the UN Convention on Refugees, the US cannot refuse thier right to enter the US. It is then up to the US to follow the established guidelines and determine if they are genuine in seeking Asylum. No one is disputing that, so I am unsure where you are coming from.

The US is a nation of immigrants, many of whom were refugees, fleeing oppression, hatred and violence. What is the difference from these people? That they came later? Trumps efforts to block refugees and immigration is not new. The US has undergone several previous efforts. Look up the "No Nothings". Do they remind you of anybody around here? Mmmm?
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Re: Trump will close Mexico border

Post by BigP » Mon Oct 22, 2018 6:10 pm

brian ross wrote:
Mon Oct 22, 2018 6:06 pm
BigP wrote:
Mon Oct 22, 2018 4:13 pm
""He just wants to prevent them entering the US""

Like it or not Brian, so do the majority of Americans, These people have no legal or moral rite to enter the US
Depends if they come as Refugees or not, mate. Under the UN Convention on Refugees, the US cannot refuse thier right to enter the US. It is then up to the US to follow the established guidelines and determine if they are genuine in seeking Asylum. No one is disputing that, so I am unsure where you are coming from.

The US is a nation of immigrants, many of whom were refugees, fleeing oppression, hatred and violence. What is the difference from these people? That they came later? Trumps efforts to block refugees and immigration is not new. The US has undergone several previous efforts. Look up the "No Nothings". Do they remind you of anybody around here? Mmmm?
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""Depends if they come as Refugees or not, mate.""

The average US citzen cares not about their refugee status, They just dont want the assholes entering the country, The only peeps that care about refugees are the lefty clowns at the UN

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Re: Trump will close Mexico border

Post by brian ross » Mon Oct 22, 2018 6:20 pm

BigP wrote:
Mon Oct 22, 2018 6:10 pm
brian ross wrote:
Mon Oct 22, 2018 6:06 pm
BigP wrote:
Mon Oct 22, 2018 4:13 pm
""He just wants to prevent them entering the US""

Like it or not Brian, so do the majority of Americans, These people have no legal or moral rite to enter the US
Depends if they come as Refugees or not, mate. Under the UN Convention on Refugees, the US cannot refuse thier right to enter the US. It is then up to the US to follow the established guidelines and determine if they are genuine in seeking Asylum. No one is disputing that, so I am unsure where you are coming from.

The US is a nation of immigrants, many of whom were refugees, fleeing oppression, hatred and violence. What is the difference from these people? That they came later? Trumps efforts to block refugees and immigration is not new. The US has undergone several previous efforts. Look up the "No Nothings". Do they remind you of anybody around here? Mmmm?
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""Depends if they come as Refugees or not, mate.""

The average US citzen cares not about their refugee status, They just dont want the assholes entering the country, The only peeps that care about refugees are the lefty clowns at the UN
Oh, dearie, dearie, me. The UN is powerless here. It can only share it's moral outrage that a member state which was once the champion of the UN Refugee Convention and who largely created it, itself after WWII now finds it inconvenient to abide by it.

Their is a significant slice of the American population who came to the US as refugees, who are descended from refugee migrants and who understand what their nation's heritage is. They refuse to abide by the rule of the "Know Nothings". They refuse to revile in ignorance. Unlike Trump and his rump.
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