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Re: Jnr Terrorists

Post by Rorschach » Tue Oct 16, 2018 8:49 am

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Re: Jnr Terrorists

Post by Bobby » Tue Oct 16, 2018 1:29 pm

Bobby wrote:
Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:33 am
Valkie wrote:
Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:40 am
But only one cult lives to kill
Only one cult continually demands death of any who question it's motives
Only one cult is associated with death and terrorism

And it's only because it follows the teachings of a retarded, sociopath, self confessed paedophile murdering nutcase liar.

Seriously, flying donkeys
Watching the sun set into a muddy hole
What a nutcase
But Valkie,
you can't say that in our new politically correct world.
You have to accept all religious dogma no matter how absurd.

Do you believe in the virgin Mary?




Valkie - you never answered me.



Do you believe in the virgin Mary?

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Re: Jnr Terrorists

Post by Rorschach » Tue Oct 16, 2018 2:19 pm

Take it to the religion section Bobby.
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Re: Jnr Terrorists

Post by Bobby » Tue Oct 16, 2018 2:54 pm

Rorschach wrote:
Tue Oct 16, 2018 2:19 pm
Take it to the religion section Bobby.
I was providing comic relief.

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Re: Jnr Terrorists

Post by Valkie » Tue Oct 16, 2018 4:05 pm

Do you believe in the virgin Mary?
Bobby.
You see this is where modern Christians differ from muzzo cultists.

While it may not be fact that, in our terms, Mary was not a virgin.
Much was lost in translation, virgin was not exactly what was meant when the word was written.
Was she a virgin as we know it, probably not, but it's the message, not the words that matter.

Additionally, the bible was written centuries after Jesus died, by people who never actually met the man.
And much of it has been doctored, adjusted etc.
We are still doing it to this day.

So, why do we still acknowledge this as our book?
Because it is a guide, not an historical account.
It's meant to give us an understanding, and many parts of it are abstract.

Many Christians believe Jesus died on the cross for us.
But if you read the account carefully and think.
What Jesus discovers is, for the first time in his existence, what its like to be without gods presence as god withdraws it from him.
"Why have you forsaken me" has a deeper meaning.....see.
But Jesus also stated
"Forgive them, for they know not what they do"
He realises that we live every day without gods presence, and he is now our advocate in heaven for us, for we don't know what we do.

If you want some really mind twisting reading try reading about Lot.
It's one part of the bible regularly glossed over.
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A world free from the plague of Islam
A world that has never known the horrors of the cult of death.
My hope is that in time, Islam will be nothing but a bad dream

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Re: Jnr Terrorists

Post by Bobby » Tue Oct 16, 2018 4:09 pm

Valkie wrote:
Tue Oct 16, 2018 4:05 pm
Do you believe in the virgin Mary?
Bobby.
You see this is where modern Christians differ from muzzo cultists.

While it may not be fact that, in our terms, Mary was not a virgin.
Much was lost in translation, virgin was not exactly what was meant when the word was written.
Was she a virgin as we know it, probably not, but it's the message, not the words that matter.

Additionally, the bible was written centuries after Jesus died, by people who never actually met the man.
And much of it has been doctored, adjusted etc.
We are still doing it to this day.

So, why do we still acknowledge this as our book?
Because it is a guide, not an historical account.
It's meant to give us an understanding, and many parts of it are abstract.

Many Christians believe Jesus died on the cross for us.
But if you read the account carefully and think.
What Jesus discovers is, for the first time in his existence, what its like to be without gods presence as god withdraws it from him.
"Why have you forsaken me" has a deeper meaning.....see.
But Jesus also stated
"Forgive them, for they know not what they do"
He realises that we live every day without gods presence, and he is now our advocate in heaven for us, for we don't know what we do.

If you want some really mind twisting reading try reading about Lot.
It's one part of the bible regularly glossed over.

The Bible is all poetry and hyperbole -
it's not meant to be taken literally as religious extremists do all the time.

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Re: Jnr Terrorists

Post by Neferti » Tue Oct 16, 2018 4:30 pm

The Roman Catholics believe in the Virgin Mary. The Protestants do not. I have no idea what Bible the Catholics use but the Protestants use the King James Version. (KJV) I have one around here somewhere. :D

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Re: Jnr Terrorists

Post by Valkie » Tue Oct 16, 2018 4:40 pm

The Bible is all poetry and hyperbole -
it's not meant to be taken literally as religious extremists do all the time.
Exactly.
But there are some out there who are foolish enough to believe every word written.

I like to think that it had these outlandish claims, and stories to make people take a step back and say...." Hang on, that's not riii....."
Opening their minds and giving them the ability to think for themselves.

Remember, we have been given self awareness and free will.

But some cults try to force feed their interpretation on people, stating that the Koran is a historical and exact book of facts.
No wonder the followers are confused.
And, this is why the cult of death appeals to low IQ individuals, because they need to be led and have no ability to think for themselves.
Much like bwyannnnnnnn.

When I was doing engineering, we has this text book on fluid dynamics.
The lecturer who wrote it was in fact my lecturer at the time.
While doing some work, I forgot the formula for a particular problem, so I developed my own based on my understanding of fluid dynamics.
In short, gas ( for the purposes of general fluid equations) becomes incompressable once it becomes a fluid.

Anyhoo, I did my computations and passed it to the lecturer who promptly put a big red x through it because it didn't have the answer he knew it was.
I asked him where I went wrong, aside from not using the formula.
He worked through it and discovered, to his dismay, that I was correct, he considered gas infinitely compressible.

Even the smartest ( and this guy was a genius, as well as a nice bloke) make mistakes.
Always question What you either are not sure of or don't believe.
Sometimes it just takes a new set of eyes to find a glaring error.
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A world free from the plague of Islam
A world that has never known the horrors of the cult of death.
My hope is that in time, Islam will be nothing but a bad dream

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Re: Jnr Terrorists

Post by brian ross » Tue Oct 16, 2018 5:13 pm

Neferti~ wrote:
Tue Oct 16, 2018 4:30 pm
The Roman Catholics believe in the Virgin Mary. The Protestants do not. I have no idea what Bible the Catholics use but the Protestants use the King James Version. (KJV) I have one around here somewhere. :D
Depends on how you define the idea of "belief". Protestants believe that Mary existed and that she carried Jesus and birthed him and he was conceived by God himself. Catholics also believe that Mary was taken bodily into Heaven and is seated beside Jesus there. The Catholics believe in the divinity therefore of Mary, whereas Protestants do now.

Here are the eight main differences between most, but not all Protestants and Catholics:
1. Understanding of the Bible

Catholicism and Protestantism have distinct views on the meaning and the authority of the Bible. For Protestant Christians, Luther made clear that the Bible is the "Sola Skriptura," God's only book, in which He provided His revelations to the people and which allows them to enter in communion with Him.

Catholics, on the other hand, do not base their beliefs on the Bible alone. Along with the Holy Scripture, they are additionally bound by the traditions of the Roman Catholic Church.

2. Understanding the church

Catholics and Protestants have a different view on the nature of the church. The word "catholic" means "all-embracing," and the Catholic Church sees itself as the only true church worldwide, under the leadership of the pope.

In contrast, the Protestant Churches which have emerged from Reformation, also called "Evangelical," which means "according to the Gospel," do not make up one united Church. There are rather several tens of thousands of different denominations around the world. Officially, all of these many churches are considered equal.

3. The pope

Protestants are not open at all to papal primacy. According to the Evangelical view, this dogma contradicts statements in the Bible.

Catholics see in the pope the successor of the Apostle Peter, the first head of their Church, who was appointed by Jesus. The papal office is justified by an allegedly unbroken chain of consecrations, ranging from the first century to the present.
Pope Francis address (Getty Images/AFP/A. Pizzoli)

Even if many Protestants like Pope Francis, they categorically reject papacy

4. Understanding of the office

This continuous chain, known as the apostolic succession, is overall significant for different spiritual offices in the Catholic Church. With the Sacrament of Holy Orders, bishops, priests and deacons receive a lifelong seal of God giving them sacramental authority over Catholic laypeople. This consecration can only be given to men.

Protestants do not consecrate specific persons into office, but rather accept the principle that priesthood can be transferred to every believer - even to women.

5. Eucharist or Lord's Supper

The Catholics' views on the spiritual office are reflected in the Eucharist, or Holy Communion, a rite commemorating the Last Supper of Jesus with his disciples before his crucifixion. Once consecrated by a priest in the name of Jesus, bread and wine become the body and blood of Christ. Non-Catholics may not participate in Communion.
In the Protest Church, every baptized person is invited to share and is allowed to lead the Lord's Supper. This approach is not accepted by Catholics.

Additionally, Eucharist has a different meaning for Catholics and Protestants. The bread, known as the Host, embodies Jesus and can therefore be prayed to. For Protestants, the ritual only serves to commemorate Jesus' death and resurrection.
Host at a Catholic Mass (picture alliance/Godong/P. Deliss)

For Catholics, the Host represents bread that is consecrated to represent Jesus' body

6. Sacraments

In the Roman Catholic Church, there are seven solemn rites, called sacraments: baptism, confirmation, the Eucharist, matrimony, penance, holy orders and extreme unction. The church believes these sacraments were instituted by Jesus and that they confer God's grace.

Most Protestant churches only practice two of these sacraments: baptism and the Eucharist (called Lord's Supper). They are perceived as symbolic rituals through which God delivers the Gospel. They are accepted through faith.

Read more: How Martin Luther became the first Christian pop star

7. Marian dogmas and the worship of Saints

The Roman Catholic Church reveres Mary, the mother of Jesus, as "Queen of Heaven." However, there are few biblical references to support the Catholic Marian dogmas - which include the Immaculate Conception, her perpetual virginity and her Assumption into heaven. This is why they are rejected by Protestants.
(DW / Maksim Nelioubin)

Though Protestants believe Mary was the mother of Jesus, unlike Catholics, they do not venerate her

The Catholic Church also practices the veneration of saints. Dead models of faith, recognized as "saint" by the church through canonization, can be prayed to for help in maintaining faith in God. There are over 4,000 saints. Their remains are considered holy relics which are venerated.

This veneration is also categorically by the Protestant Church as unbiblical. According to Reformation views, every person may and should pray directly to God.

8. Celibacy

All main world religions integrate in some way the concept of celibacy, the vow of abstaining from marriage and sexual relations, and the Catholic and Protestant churches are no exception. In the Catholic Church, celibacy is obligatory for priests. It is seen as a symbol of the undivided succession of Christ.

The Protestant Church rejects this obligation for priests. Martin Luther already demanded its abolition as early as 1520. He made a decisive personal contribution to this end in 1525: The former monk married the former nun Katharina von Bora. Initially unsure of whether he should marry, Luther finally determined that "his marriage would please his father, rile the pope, cause the angels to laugh, and the devils to weep."
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Re: Jnr Terrorists

Post by brian ross » Tue Oct 16, 2018 5:18 pm

Valkie wrote:
Tue Oct 16, 2018 4:40 pm
The Bible is all poetry and hyperbole -
it's not meant to be taken literally as religious extremists do all the time.
Exactly.
But there are some out there who are foolish enough to believe every word written.

I like to think that it had these outlandish claims, and stories to make people take a step back and say...." Hang on, that's not riii....."
Opening their minds and giving them the ability to think for themselves.

Remember, we have been given self awareness and free will.

But some cults try to force feed their interpretation on people, stating that the Koran is a historical and exact book of facts.
No wonder the followers are confused.
And, this is why the cult of death appeals to low IQ individuals, because they need to be led and have no ability to think for themselves.
Much like bwyannnnnnnn.

When I was doing engineering, we has this text book on fluid dynamics.
The lecturer who wrote it was in fact my lecturer at the time.
While doing some work, I forgot the formula for a particular problem, so I developed my own based on my understanding of fluid dynamics.
In short, gas ( for the purposes of general fluid equations) becomes incompressable once it becomes a fluid.

Anyhoo, I did my computations and passed it to the lecturer who promptly put a big red x through it because it didn't have the answer he knew it was.
I asked him where I went wrong, aside from not using the formula.
He worked through it and discovered, to his dismay, that I was correct, he considered gas infinitely compressible.

Even the smartest ( and this guy was a genius, as well as a nice bloke) make mistakes.
Always question What you either are not sure of or don't believe.
Sometimes it just takes a new set of eyes to find a glaring error.
Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Gases never become incompressible. They can go from gaseous, through fluids and even become solids, Valkie. Of course, once the gas has left it's gaseous state, it ceases to be a gas though and becomes a fluid and thence a solid, once more pressure is applied. Tut, tut.
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