To be biased is correct

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Re: To be biased is correct

Post by sprintcyclist » Fri Apr 20, 2018 5:56 pm

Mistress Nicole wrote:
sprintcyclist wrote:me neither.

Does the sun have a point when it gets up every morning ?
So what I think you’re saying is we have a fight or flight mode. This is innate.

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Re: To be biased is correct

Post by Nicole » Sat Apr 21, 2018 7:18 am

@ sprint
If you were walking past an alleyway and say some shady characters down there, do you keep alert and quiet ?
Sprint I dunno, but maybe you're actually suggesting that stereotyping (which is a form of bias) is correct?

All human beings stereotype. It's innate. So if for example I walk past an alleyway and see two little old ladies down there, in twin sets and pearls, there is no need to "keep alert and quiet" because in an instance I stereotype little old ladies as no threat. However, if I walk past that same alleyway, and see 2 hells angel's bikies in leathers, I keep "alert and quiet", because I immediately stereotype them as a threat?

How about that?

I am a 44 year old white anglo-saxon woman. I fly quite often. The last 4 out of 5 times I have been through airport security I have been security wanded. This pisses me off.

How many white middle aged women have hijacked a plane? Ever? They are not stereotyping, and stereotyping (what you call "bias") is correct.

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Re: To be biased is correct

Post by Nom De Plume » Sat Apr 21, 2018 9:55 am

I'm still trying to work out what this has to do with science, tech and innovation.

Anyone?
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Re: To be biased is correct

Post by Nicole » Sat Apr 21, 2018 9:58 am

Nom De Plume wrote:I'm still trying to work out what this has to do with science, tech and innovation.

Anyone?
No idea. :lol:

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Re: To be biased is correct

Post by sprintcyclist » Sat Apr 21, 2018 10:59 am

Mistress Nicole wrote:@ sprint
If you were walking past an alleyway and say some shady characters down there, do you keep alert and quiet ?
Sprint I dunno, but maybe you're actually suggesting that stereotyping (which is a form of bias) is correct?

All human beings stereotype. It's innate. So if for example I walk past an alleyway and see two little old ladies down there, in twin sets and pearls, there is no need to "keep alert and quiet" because in an instance I stereotype little old ladies as no threat. However, if I walk past that same alleyway, and see 2 hells angel's bikies in leathers, I keep "alert and quiet", because I immediately stereotype them as a threat?

How about that?

I am a 44 year old white anglo-saxon woman. I fly quite often. The last 4 out of 5 times I have been through airport security I have been security wanded. This pisses me off.

How many white middle aged women have hijacked a plane? Ever? They are not stereotyping, and stereotyping (what you call "bias") is correct.

yes, and the security should show bias.
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Re: To be biased is correct

Post by Black Orchid » Sat Apr 21, 2018 11:43 am

To be biased in some ways comes naturally through learned instincts and experience, an unconscious bias.

Conscious bias is another thing entirely and usually hinged on prejudice.

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Re: To be biased is correct

Post by Malcolm_hates_your_kids » Sat Apr 21, 2018 1:26 pm

Nom De Plume wrote:I'm still trying to work out what this has to do with science, tech and innovation.

Anyone?
First principles: science, technology and innovation can't be any good for us if we haven't got our heads screwed on right or they will just be more tools misused.
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Re: To be biased is correct

Post by Malcolm_hates_your_kids » Sat Apr 21, 2018 1:27 pm

Black Orchid wrote:To be biased in some ways comes naturally through learned instincts and experience, an unconscious bias.

Conscious bias is another thing entirely and usually hinged on prejudice.
How do you differentiate between the two?
Stop making things worse! :pope

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Re: To be biased is correct

Post by Nicole » Sat Apr 21, 2018 2:37 pm

Malcolm_hates_your_kids wrote:
Black Orchid wrote:To be biased in some ways comes naturally through learned instincts and experience, an unconscious bias.

Conscious bias is another thing entirely and usually hinged on prejudice.
How do you differentiate between the two?
That’s an interesting question Malcolm. Orchid?

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Re: To be biased is correct

Post by brian ross » Sat Apr 21, 2018 2:45 pm

To be unconsciously biased indicates to me a lack of intelligence and learning on the part of the person making that biased decision. To be consciously biased, shows a lack of understanding and a conscious decision to make an unfair decision on the basis of learned prejudice. Is that prejudice valid? Is that biased decision fair? I do not think so generally. At it's worst it results in bigotry, the person/thing being decided against is not being judged fairly. At it's least, it results in people being hurt and treated badly. We should always try and educate ourselves at every turn and think hard about our decisions. If we submit to bias and at it's worst, bigotry it shows an unintelligent, easy response to a given situation rather than one which has actually been thought through. :roll:
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