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Neferti
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by Neferti » Thu Jun 19, 2014 4:10 pm
IQS.RLOW wrote:He only here because he is Aussies little minion, doing Aussies bidding like a good little blumpkin.
He will be gone after the voting opens.
Maybe not just as arsie's minion ... we have few leftards here, so perhaps he just likes having eggs and ripe tomatoes thrown at him?

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alevine
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by alevine » Fri Jun 20, 2014 8:28 pm
Rorschach wrote:alevine wrote:IQS.RLOW wrote:Tsk tsk...first a red herring and now a strawman.
Please lift your game

It's the same principle, no? Perhaps you can explain, you're the one who tells me that 500 year old trees can be "renewed" after being torn down. Don't tell me, please, that your idea of renewed is for us to sit by the hill and wait for 500 years?
Well that is the way nature works you know.
You will note that the trees in question are reaching the end of their lives at 450 years and that decaying old growth adds to the release of greenhouse gasses....
There are younger trees still growing as well, you might just have to wait 50 or 100 or 200 years instead of 500.

http://m.smh.com.au/environment/climate ... 30vvc.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
There is debate on that and actually there are studies to suggest not only that old growth forests are in equilibrium with regard to carbon but also that they can contribute to storing carbon.
And regardless, we aren't just talking global warming when it comes to conservation but also the unique ecological diversity that exists in old growth forests which will take the same time to rebuild as it has to develop.
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IQS.RLOW
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by IQS.RLOW » Fri Jun 20, 2014 8:57 pm
The SMH

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Lucas
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by Lucas » Fri Jun 20, 2014 9:24 pm
Welcome to the forum alevine its a shame you never joined sooner. Then you could have participated in out upcoming election.

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alevine
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by alevine » Fri Jun 20, 2014 11:04 pm
Lucas wrote:Welcome to the forum alevine its a shame you never joined sooner. Then you could have participated in out upcoming election.

Thanks for the welcome.
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Rorschach
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by Rorschach » Sat Jun 21, 2014 10:38 pm
alevine wrote:Rorschach wrote:IQS.RLOW wrote:Tsk tsk...first a red herring and now a strawman.
It's the same principle, no? Perhaps you can explain, you're the one who tells me that 500 year old trees can be "renewed" after being torn down. Don't tell me, please, that your idea of renewed is for us to sit by the hill and wait for 500 years?
Well that is the way nature works you know.
You will note that the trees in question are reaching the end of their lives at 450 years and that decaying old growth adds to the release of greenhouse gasses....
There are younger trees still growing as well, you might just have to wait 50 or 100 or 200 years instead of 500.

http://m.smh.com.au/environment/climate ... 30vvc.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
There is debate on that and actually there are studies to suggest not only that old growth forests are in equilibrium with regard to carbon but also that they can contribute to storing carbon.
And regardless, we aren't just talking global warming when it comes to conservation but also the unique ecological diversity that exists in old growth forests which will take the same time to rebuild as it has to develop.

Trees can contribute to storing carbon... well what do you know? Do you know what decaying organic matter contributes to?
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by boxy » Sun Jun 22, 2014 10:27 pm
Natural decay is more or less neutral (tending towards storage, as some of the carbon is laid down into the soil and sub-soil). As trees in a forest grow (and store carbon) others decay (and release carbon).
Simple stuff.
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IQS.RLOW
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by IQS.RLOW » Sun Jun 22, 2014 11:09 pm
boxy wrote:Natural decay is more or less neutral (tending towards storage, as some of the carbon is laid down into the soil and sub-soil). As trees in a forest grow (and store carbon) others decay (and release carbon).
Simple stuff.
Just as any use of ends up with exactly the same release of carbon no matter what you do with the product. Unless you lefties have managed to change the laws of physics as you have dictionary meanings?

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by boxy » Sun Jun 22, 2014 11:33 pm
Not when you dig up and burn, in a few decades, carbon that took millions of years to lay down, deep in the earth.
Like I said, simple stuff.
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by Rorschach » Sun Jun 22, 2014 11:40 pm
boxy wrote:Not when you dig up and burn, in a few decades, carbon that took millions of years to lay down, deep in the earth.
Like I said, simple stuff.
Where do you think it was before then? Before the plants used it?

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