Should Australia become a republic?

[mellie]

Fact: Alexander Fleming discovered penicillin
Even Florey acknowleded that Fleming discovered penicillin
to suggest otherwise shows disrespect

Fact... Fleming discovered an antimicrobial mould, the Australian pharmacist Florey brought us the drug penicillin a decade later.

If it had not been for Florey expanding on Flemings mere observation...Fleming would not have received a Nobel Prize.

Florey was a nice bloke... hu!

[Rorschach]

Fact: Alexander Fleming discovered penicillin
Even Florey acknowleded that Fleming discovered penicillin
to suggest otherwise shows disrespect

Never said he didn't teddy bear... care to provide a quote?

[mellie]

I'd give up mel...
You get it, I get it...
ted is a no account with limited comprehension apparently.
No one said Fleming didn't accidentally discover a mould with certain antibiotic properties.
I've posted it several times now an apparently ted still doesn't get it... he is as pedantic and stupid as aussie.
So I'm ignoring his stupidity.

Perhaps this might help some who struggle....


There were many who had discovered the moulds antimicrobial properties, and long before Fleming.

Fleming didn’t really do much other than observe, grow and distribute a pure strain of the mould ...Penicillium notatum.

Not penicillin the DRUG itself as he lacked the expertise to stabilise the culture for medicinal commercial use.



There were plenty before Fleming who's scientific research was either ignored or dismissed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discovery_of_penicillin

A decade later...In Oxford, Australian Howard Walter Florey organised his large and very skilled biochemical research team, notable among them Ernst Boris Chain and Norman Heatley, to undertake innovative work to produce a stable penicillin.

Penicillin is a group of antibiotics derived from the penicillium fungi.

Penecillin itself is neither a mould or a fungi...it;s a compound.

And old Flem boy did not discover the compound Penicillin, because he lacked the pharmacological expertise required to produce it.

Ted, your problem is you are confusing Penicillin (the stable compound/drug) with the culture, penecillium.

Thats the last thing I’ll say on the matter.

[AiA in Atlanta]

hard to surround someone from a distance. or with a nation in between.

The US military doesn't think so:

In addition to the site on Saipan, the Air Force plans to send aircraft on regular deployments to bases ranging from Australia to India as part of its bulked up force in the Pacific. These plans include regular deployments to Royal Australian Air Force bases at Darwin and Tindal, Changi East air base in Singapore, Korat air base in Thailand, Trivandrum in India, and possibly bases at Cubi Point and Puerto Princesa in the Philippines and airfields in Indonesia and Malaysia, a top U.S. Air Force general revealed last month.

http://killerapps.foreignpolicy.com/pos ... tary_bases

[AiA in Atlanta]

China too was once a most inventive place and oft imitated ... many centuries ago. Now it is America's turn to be inventive and imitated around the world. America's asset (currently) is risk taking. Without a culture of risk taking inventiveness doesn't matter much. The new comes from the US and is imitated elsewhere and not because of their education system but because of the culture of risk taking.

[Rorschach]

hard to surround someone from a distance. or with a nation in between.

The US military doesn't think so:

In addition to the site on Saipan, the Air Force plans to send aircraft on regular deployments to bases ranging from Australia to India as part of its bulked up force in the Pacific. These plans include regular deployments to Royal Australian Air Force bases at Darwin and Tindal, Changi East air base in Singapore, Korat air base in Thailand, Trivandrum in India, and possibly bases at Cubi Point and Puerto Princesa in the Philippines and airfields in Indonesia and Malaysia, a top U.S. Air Force general revealed last month.

http://killerapps.foreignpolicy.com/pos ... tary_bases

Well we all know how good at thinking the US military are don't we. I see no support of your "surround" idea in that quote by the way. If they wanted to surround China they'd be in Indonesia or Borneo and perhaps even PNG.

[AiA in Atlanta]

It isn't my idea. The US is encircling China and Australia is involved.

[mantra]

It isn't my idea. The US is encircling China and Australia is involved.

We certainly are, but at this stage through surveillance mainly. Our participation isn't helping our relationship with China.

[Aldebaran5]

Singapore’s president is not unlike Australia’s Governor General Quentin Bryce.

His duties are merely ceremonial, unlike a true republics President, such as Americas Obama BinLaden...eer, rather Borak Osama, sorry, I always get the two mixed up.

I think you're getting hung up on the US style of Republic. Singapore has a different model of Republic, usually referred to as a Parliamentary Republic. Another example of this is Germany (Bundesrepublik Deutschland).

If Australia was to move away from the Constitutional Monarchy (IMO why fix what isn't broken ?) then the parliamentary republic style would be the best fit. Alternatively, a federation (like Canada) or a Confederation (like Switzerland) would also work with minimal change.

[Super Nova]

Singapore’s president is not unlike Australia’s Governor General Quentin Bryce.

His duties are merely ceremonial, unlike a true republics President, such as Americas Obama BinLaden...eer, rather Borak Osama, sorry, I always get the two mixed up.

I think you're getting hung up on the US style of Republic. Singapore has a different model of Republic, usually referred to as a Parliamentary Republic. Another example of this is Germany (Bundesrepublik Deutschland).

If Australia was to move away from the Constitutional Monarchy (IMO why fix what isn't broken ?) then the parliamentary republic style would be the best fit. Alternatively, a federation (like Canada) or a Confederation (like Switzerland) would also work with minimal change.

Yes I agree. It needs to be one of minimal change where the power of the parliament isn't watered down with a new political head of state. I isn't broken why fix it argument I think is valid.