Even Oakes knows they are gone

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Re: Even Oakes knows they are gone

Post by Rorschach » Sun Jun 02, 2013 9:57 am

Aussie wrote:Oakes is financially bankrupt?
Obviously you failed to read the article. Perhaps even the article's heading.
Julia Gillard's Labor government financially broke, morally bankrupt, writes Laurie Oakes
You need to get your act together or people will think you are just a troll or being an idiot..
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Re: Even Oakes knows they are gone

Post by Mattus » Sun Jun 02, 2013 12:01 pm

Rorschach wrote: He was unbiased
There is no such thing.
Oakes' bias, any journalist with a bias, (most of the ABC and Fairfax) is kidding themselves and the public when they allow their personal politics colour their publicly expresssed opinions and articles. This is and has always been very clear with Oakes.
It causes his articles to be flavoured negative when it comes to any story with the other side of politics or any individual politician from there.
That is the problem.
Oakes does not attempt to present an unbiased view. He presents his view.
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Re: Even Oakes knows they are gone

Post by Rorschach » Sun Jun 02, 2013 12:11 pm

Mattus wrote:
Rorschach wrote: He was unbiased
There is no such thing.
Oakes' bias, any journalist with a bias, (most of the ABC and Fairfax) is kidding themselves and the public when they allow their personal politics colour their publicly expresssed opinions and articles. This is and has always been very clear with Oakes.
It causes his articles to be flavoured negative when it comes to any story with the other side of politics or any individual politician from there.
That is the problem.
Oakes does not attempt to present an unbiased view. He presents his view.
"There is no such thing."
Then you never listened to Brian White then.
When have you ever heard Oakes ever say his commentary is biased? Answer... Never. He just presents it as FACTUAL. When most of the time it is not.
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Re: Even Oakes knows they are gone

Post by IQS.RLOW » Sun Jun 02, 2013 12:45 pm

Mattus wrote:Oakes is the best political journalist this country has ever had. From the Edward Murrow school of journalism, he wears his bias on his sleeve. It takes nothing away from his journalism. On he contrary, it is refreshing honesty in an industry which is obsessed with presenting itself as fair and balanced, when it is anything but.

To suggest that Oakes has had his head in the sand about the inevitable political Armageddon that the alp faces is demonstray wrong. This article from February gives brilliant imagery of how the alp party room is preparing for the reaping.
Oakes has been cheer leading for the ALP instead of reporting for years. Showing one article from as recently as Feb when the position in the polls has been steadily bumping along the bottom for 2 years is a bit rich, but to be fair to Oakes he just suffers from the mindless group think that plagues most of the journalistic class

The list below shows the negativity directed at the opposition from the journalistic elite including Oakes and I bet you would struggle to find any, if at all from Oakes that details the problems with the ALP. Even that Feb article is about what they can do from opposition. I'd like to see him write on how he thinks they ended up where they are now but that probably won't happen until after the election because in Oakes mind, there's still half a chance that he can contribute to penning a "gotcha" that will turn the election around and confirm his self aggrandised view of 4th estate entitlement.

http://pindanpost.com/2013/05/12/abbott ... ead-space/

George Megalogenis, 29 Sept 2012: Abbott doesn’t want to look at the bigger picture
Dennis Atkins, 15 Sept 2012: Abbott needs his old candour back
Peter van Onselen: Is Tony a one-trick pony?
Dennis Atkins, 25 August 2012: Rhetoric rides unbridled as Tony Abbott is obsessed with polls
Lenore Taylor: Lack of carnage Abbott’s inconvenient fiscal truth
Laurie Oakes, 25 August 2012: Have you heard the one about the politician who lies?
Michelle Grattan, 24 August 2012: Is Abbott on thin ice? Absolutely
Laura Tingle, 24 August 2012: Move forward – there’s no going back
David Penberthy, 24 August 2012: Abbott mines a rich vein of rank opportunism
Phillip Coorey: Abbott having it both ways on BHP
Leigh Sales interview with Tony Abbott, 22 August 2012
Mark Latham, 16 August 2012: Media double standard giving Abbott a free ride
Jon Faine, 14 August 2012: Nauru processing ‘good policy’ says Tony Abbott
Ad Astra, 13 August 2012: Journalists awake! You know Tony Abbott is conning you
Dennis Atkins, 11 August 2012: It’s game on for Gillard holding the deck
Tim Dunlop, 9 August 2012: If Tony Abbott didn’t exist, the media would have to invent him
GrogsGamut / Greg Jericho, 1 Feb 2012: The analysis void in political journalism
Paul Kelly, 9 November 2011: Super backflip breaks dam for Abbott
Laurie Oakes, 5 November 2011: Mining tax has exposed Abbott
Laura Tingle, 28 October 2011: Labor hopeless, Abbott a hollow man
Drag0nista, 23 October 2011: Is the tide turning for Tony Abbott?
Lenore Taylor, 21 October 2011: Ignore all facts and just run with the bluster
Andrew Probyn, 21 October 2011: Future not so simple for Abbott
Shaun Carney, 21 October 2011: Blood oath reality is taking Abbott out of comfort zone
Annabel Crabb, 26 July 2011:Freed from facts Abbott goes ballooning
Lainie Anderson: 17 July 2011: Lying is bad, distorting the truth is even worse
Bernard Keane, 9 March 2011: Tony Abbott debates Tony Abbott on climate change
GrogsGamut/Greg Jericho, 18 May 2010: Because his lips are moving
GrogsGamut/Greg Jericho, 7 January 2010: Abbott makes life easy for Rudd
GrogsGamut/Greg Jericho, 10 December 2009: Tony Abbott gets it wrong
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Re: Even Oakes knows they are gone

Post by skippy » Sun Jun 02, 2013 4:42 pm

The overwhelming majority of political commentators state the obvious yet the conga line call them partisan hacks. Delusion reigns supreme in conga line land.

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Re: Even Oakes knows they are gone

Post by Jovial_Monk » Sun Jun 02, 2013 5:18 pm

Yeah, Libs have PPL and BOATS! to campaign on, not much of a platform. Oh, Direct Action too got an airing so that will now be pulled to pieces.

Tony Abbott will never be Prime Minister.

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Re: Even Oakes knows they are gone

Post by IQS.RLOW » Sun Jun 02, 2013 5:47 pm

skippy wrote:The overwhelming majority of political commentators state the obvious yet the conga line call them partisan hacks. Delusion reigns supreme in conga line land.
The thing is, it's exactly the opposite of that in the real world. The 4th estate doesn't represent or report evenly the true intentions of the politic, the report their view of it and recent surveys have shown that the majority of journalists across the media entities are left leaning whereas the majority of the population are right leaning.

Your conga line is your ilk and the partisan hacks desperately trying (and failing, I might add) to sway the election their way....and then you have the gall of that fuckwit Conroy to try and silence any dissent because even with the conga line behind him the govt is so useless it can't sell its message so the political left goes after the only balanced media in the country while leaving Fairfax and the ABC especially to continue unabated.

I hope the coalition go through the ABC like a dose of salts after sept and I hope the conga line of hacks that failed in the real world of journalism and ended up at the ALPBC get fucked up the arse and turfed out to end up on some shitty blog where they deserve to be.
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Re: Even Oakes knows they are gone

Post by Rorschach » Sun Jun 02, 2013 5:58 pm

skippy wrote:The overwhelming majority of political commentators state the obvious yet the conga line call them partisan hacks. Delusion reigns supreme in conga line land.
Overwhelmingly... the majority of commentators are LEFTWING
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Re: Even Oakes knows they are gone

Post by Jovial_Monk » Sun Jun 02, 2013 7:18 pm

Let me guess “The Polls! Oh the Polls!”

Fuck the polls, a huge percentage reckon they could change their mind and another good percentage are non committed.

It will, as always, come down to WIIFM and the Libs are all about taking away.

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Re: Even Oakes knows they are gone

Post by IQS.RLOW » Sun Jun 02, 2013 7:28 pm

Fuck the polls
:rofl :rofl :rofl

Even the ALP caucus aren't as delusional as you. 100% of them aren't focused on winning, they are focused on how much they will lose by.

Why not post up your $500 betting chit that you said you wagered on Gillard winning? Why not go and whack down another $5K...odds are even better now and you can clean up
:rofl :rofl :rofl

You delusional fucking idiot. You truly belong over at Pollbludger seeing as its populated by fucking morons like yourself. I just hope one of you losers starts a tumblr account with pics of all the leftwing politic dicksuckers that end up swinging from a beam or opening their wrists in a crimson bath.

It would give me something to fap to.
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