Thus Spake Mungo: The betrayal

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Thus Spake Mungo: The betrayal

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Re: Thus Spake Mungo: The betrayal

Post by Wally Raffles » Sun Jul 21, 2019 2:37 pm

Why does one group of Australians deserve a second 'voice?'

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Re: Thus Spake Mungo: The betrayal

Post by brian ross » Sun Jul 21, 2019 3:10 pm

Wally Raffles wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2019 2:37 pm
Why does one group of Australians deserve a second 'voice?'
Perhaps 'cause their first one has been ignored for the last 200+ years?
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Re: Thus Spake Mungo: The betrayal

Post by Valkie » Sun Jul 21, 2019 5:11 pm

Perhaps simply because all their voice says is

"GIMME, GIMME, GIMME, GIMME"

One Australia for all, no more abbos vs whites.

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Re: Thus Spake Mungo: The betrayal

Post by cods » Sun Jul 21, 2019 6:37 pm

oh god is that another POOR ME rant?..

I cant be bothered reading it to be honest

I bet its all about big bad whitey..... and how we just dont plain NEED HIM... :roll: :roll:

yeah right....we have seen the communities they have been given management of....

sorry just not good enough for me for the amount of money thats invested.

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Re: Thus Spake Mungo: The betrayal

Post by Wally Raffles » Tue Jul 23, 2019 11:59 am

brian ross wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2019 3:10 pm
Wally Raffles wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2019 2:37 pm
Why does one group of Australians deserve a second 'voice?'
Perhaps 'cause their first one has been ignored for the last 200+ years?
I disagree. Whitlam did not ignore that voice and no PM since has. That voice is still there and is heard. It does not need to be given a useless special Constitutional Chamber to be heard in at all.

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Re: Thus Spake Mungo: The betrayal

Post by brian ross » Tue Jul 23, 2019 2:59 pm

Wally Raffles wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 11:59 am
brian ross wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2019 3:10 pm
Wally Raffles wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2019 2:37 pm
Why does one group of Australians deserve a second 'voice?'
Perhaps 'cause their first one has been ignored for the last 200+ years?
I disagree. Whitlam did not ignore that voice and no PM since has. That voice is still there and is heard. It does not need to be given a useless special Constitutional Chamber to be heard in at all.
Did you even read Mungo's column? Appears not. Get back to us when you have. :roll:
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Re: Thus Spake Mungo: The betrayal

Post by Outlaw Yogi » Tue Jul 23, 2019 3:27 pm

brian ross wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 2:59 pm
Did you even read Mungo's column? Appears not. :roll:
Well I didn't read it either, for the simple reason that you're a lot like long time nuisance factor ex member "Arsie" who like you often posted links with no text from it quoted, which upon clicking on turned out to be malware or simply a waste of time.

Y'see we've had a long held custom here at PA where we post the title of the subject/issue, a link to it if available, and quoted text/s from it the poster deems relevant.

So if you genuinely want members here to take notice or even/actually read what you are trying to bring to their attention, I suggest/advise you follow this simple custom.
brian ross wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 2:59 pm
Get back to us when you have.
Go copulate yourself

The only reason I now know what the issue is about is because others have commented on it.

From one of your replies (BR) I'm assuming you're taking the common misconception that the current Aboriginals in this land were the first people on this continent, which DNA, anthropology and paleontology all dispute.

The current Aboriginal people in OZ are at least the third group of people to have migrated to this continent.
They came from India and Burma between 5000 and 4000 years ago, and displaced those already here for the same reason every other conquering people on this planet have - superior technology.

When the current Aboriginals came they brought the ability to light fire, throwing spears aided by woomeras and dingos.

I had a Koori forster brother (Eddie) and my longest defacto relationship in Qld was with a half Murri woman (Sandy).
To me they're just people like the rest of us, and see no reason why they need special rights, victim culture or not.
I know a bloke who is half Spanish and half Armenian Cypriot, but now identifies as Aboriginal because he gets freebies for it.
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Re: Thus Spake Mungo: The betrayal

Post by Redneck » Tue Jul 23, 2019 5:04 pm

This is a lot of crap!

How many times was the British Isles invaded/taken over by all sorts of races,

So how come there are no whingers over there saying we want recognition in the constitution!

Not to mention all the other countries of the world in similar circumstances!

This mob need telling to fuck off, stop whinging and get a job among other things!

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Re: Thus Spake Mungo: The betrayal

Post by brian ross » Tue Jul 23, 2019 11:03 pm

Outlaw Yogi wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 3:27 pm
brian ross wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 2:59 pm
Did you even read Mungo's column? Appears not. :roll:
Well I didn't read it either, for the simple reason that you're a lot like long time nuisance factor ex member "Arsie" who like you often posted links with no text from it quoted, which upon clicking on turned out to be malware or simply a waste of time.

Y'see we've had a long held custom here at PA where we post the title of the subject/issue, a link to it if available, and quoted text/s from it the poster deems relevant.

So if you genuinely want members here to take notice or even/actually read what you are trying to bring to their attention, I suggest/advise you follow this simple custom.
brian ross wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 2:59 pm
Get back to us when you have.
Go copulate yourself

The only reason I now know what the issue is about is because others have commented on it.

From one of your replies (BR) I'm assuming you're taking the common misconception that the current Aboriginals in this land were the first people on this continent, which DNA, anthropology and paleontology all dispute.

The current Aboriginal people in OZ are at least the third group of people to have migrated to this continent.

They came from India and Burma between 5000 and 4000 years ago, and displaced those already here for the same reason every other conquering people on this planet have - superior technology.

When the current Aboriginals came they brought the ability to light fire, throwing spears aided by woomeras and dingos.
Really? Really? I wonder why I'm not surprised that your spouting bullshit like this Yogi. You really are full of it.

I am well aware that there were at least one if not two previous migratory waves to Australia. The last arrived approximately 50-60,000 years ago. My sister was involved with the discovery of Mungo Man who was buried approximately 50,000 years ago in 1974 as was my ex-Brother-in-Law. With Mungo Man's remains were discovered several items of interest, including the remains of a fire. His body was sprinkled with red ochre and is the earliest evidence of such funeral practices. He was from the "gracile" group Indigenous Australians, along with the Cow Swamp remains. This group arrived before the current group of Indigenous Australians by about 10-15,000 years.

So, we have evidence that they knew fire, that they more than likely had spears (from other remains) and they engaged in burial ceremonies and left various artefacts with their dead. They were here well before most white archaeologists considered before their discovery. They were here, well before you believe they were. How unsurprising. :roll:
I had a Koori forster brother (Eddie) and my longest defacto relationship in Qld was with a half Murri woman (Sandy).
To me they're just people like the rest of us, and see no reason why they need special rights, victim culture or not.
I know a bloke who is half Spanish and half Armenian Cypriot, but now identifies as Aboriginal because he gets freebies for it.
Lucky him. The problem is that to be identified as an Indigenous Australian, you must be recognised as such by other Indigenous Australians, Yogi. So, unless he's paying someone to say he is Indigenous, either he or you are bullshitting. Indeed, the bullshit that surrounds Indigenous Australians always amazes me. They don't want extra rights - they just want their own rights to be acknowledged. Now, if you had actually read Mungo's article, you wouldn't see any demand for "extra rights". All they want is acknowledgement that they once owned Australia before the white buggers came and took it off of them. :roll:
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