Man or Ape?

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Re: Man or Ape?

Post by tllwd » Tue May 13, 2025 12:36 pm

mellie wrote:
Tue May 13, 2025 7:30 am
tllwd wrote:
Mon May 12, 2025 2:13 pm
If the Big Bang theory is correct then the universe we are in has started with violence and ripple of it permeate it all the time and everywhere.
I love the show,'Big bang theory' but don't believe we are just the product of a bunch of particles smashing violently together... I think there's much more to us than this.
Sorry Sheldon. ;)
Then how do you explain perpetual violence and hate of humans?

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Re: Man or Ape?

Post by tllwd » Tue May 13, 2025 12:39 pm

tllwd wrote:
Tue May 13, 2025 12:36 pm
mellie wrote:
Tue May 13, 2025 7:30 am
tllwd wrote:
Mon May 12, 2025 2:13 pm
If the Big Bang theory is correct then the universe we are in has started with violence and ripple of it permeate it all the time and everywhere.
I love the show,'Big bang theory' but don't believe we are just the product of a bunch of particles smashing violently together... I think there's much more to us than this.
Sorry Sheldon. ;)
Then how do you explain perpetual violence and hate exhibited by humans?

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Re: Man or Ape?

Post by Jasin » Thu May 15, 2025 5:11 pm

I'll have to agree with you Mellie.
Definitely not trained (physically impossible for Chimps to walk like that 'always' without detrimental compromise of their physical aspect designed not to for long periods.
Also, the behaviour of its 'consciousness' was pretty apparent and something more natural than what could be taught in such a short time when it was discovered. Oliver understood.

Take Coco the female Chimp who was 'taught' effective communication to a good degree. She could never physically walk like Oliver, nor did she understands human behaviour like us to be like similar. She could communicate well and express her meagre thought patterns, but her consciousness of being similar to us, was never like what over expressed.

I'll stick to my him being a last connection of our very ancient Homo relatives that managed to still exist unchallenged by the last 10,000 but really last 5,000 years of Sapien expansions. The fact that Abos could exist in isolation untainted from external influences for 50,000 years (or even those North Sentinelese) shows that Homo Oliver and his kind could still exist in their ever dwindling number until the full end of today.
I really couldn't see anything 'chimp' about him. Definitely in the eyes.

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Re: Man or Ape?

Post by tllwd » Fri May 16, 2025 2:32 pm

our very ancient Homo relatives
Homo Habilis?
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Re: Man or Ape?

Post by Jasin » Fri May 16, 2025 3:56 pm

Yep. I think you nailed it there Tallo.

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Re: Man or Ape?

Post by mellie » Sat May 17, 2025 8:40 pm

tllwd wrote:
Tue May 13, 2025 12:39 pm
tllwd wrote:
Tue May 13, 2025 12:36 pm
mellie wrote:
Tue May 13, 2025 7:30 am
tllwd wrote:
Mon May 12, 2025 2:13 pm
If the Big Bang theory is correct then the universe we are in has started with violence and ripple of it permeate it all the time and everywhere.
I love the show,'Big bang theory' but don't believe we are just the product of a bunch of particles smashing violently together... I think there's much more to us than this.
Sorry Sheldon. ;)
Then how do you explain perpetual violence and hate exhibited by humans?
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When the enemy creeps in. Rather, when people allow the enemy to creep in and taint their world.
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Re: Man or Ape?

Post by mellie » Sat May 17, 2025 8:44 pm

God made many animals that share similar features, isn't to say they're all related.

If we evolved from apes, then why didn't apes evolve into humans also?

Genetic variation.... environment.... it's all theory, man is still trying to understand how he came to be, and yet, 2000 years have passed and we're still wondering 🤔???

Some questions are answered only when we pass on.

This is what I believe, I have witnessed miracles that would make even the most sceptical hairs stand on end.
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Re: Man or Ape?

Post by Bobby » Sun May 18, 2025 6:47 am

mellie wrote:
Sat May 17, 2025 8:44 pm
God made many animals that share similar features, isn't to say they're all related.

If we evolved from apes, then why didn't apes evolve into humans also?

Genetic variation.... environment.... it's all theory, man is still trying to understand how he came to be, and yet, 2000 years have passed and we're still wondering 🤔???

Some questions are answered only when we pass on.

This is what I believe, I have witnessed miracles that would make even the most sceptical hairs stand on end.

We didn't evolve from apes - we have a common ancestor.

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Re: Man or Ape?

Post by mellie » Sun May 18, 2025 7:58 am

And that ancestor is God.
:mrgreen:
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Re: Man or Ape?

Post by tllwd » Sun May 18, 2025 12:15 pm

mellie wrote:
Sun May 18, 2025 7:58 am
And that ancestor is God.
:mrgreen:
Then it s devolution not evolution.

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