Bernie Sanders

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Re: Bernie Sanders

Post by cods » Mon Mar 04, 2019 6:14 pm

Serial Brain 9 wrote:
Mon Mar 04, 2019 4:48 pm
cods wrote:
Mon Mar 04, 2019 3:31 pm
IS THERE REALLY NO ONE YOUNGER IN AMERIKA THAT BELIEVES THEY CAN SAVE THEIR COUNTRY..

my god hes 77......we dont consider our judges to be able to judge after 72..... yet you think hes ok to RUN THE BLOODY COUNTRY...


OMG if it wasnt so ridiculous it would be funny!
Hi Cods,

Sanders is already setting up someone newer and younger - Think - Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

When Sanders put his hat in the ring for 2020 he raised 6 Million Dollars for his campaign in 2 days

He has some HUGE BACKERS, he’s also financially backing young socialist crazies like Cortez.

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I call him the HUNCHBACK does he look like a match for Kim or Putin??????..

maybe he thinks Cortez will charm them to submission....

sorry but raising money in Amerika doesnt seem hard... they are born to it just ask the CLINTONS>.

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Re: Bernie Sanders

Post by Neferti » Mon Mar 04, 2019 6:28 pm

Mistress Nicole wrote:
Sun Mar 03, 2019 7:36 pm
What do you think of Bernie Sanders? He's being widely mocked for describing himself as a "democratic socialist".

That "socialist" word is scary, ain't it. But you need to put the word "democratic" before it.

Denmark, Norway, Finland and Switzerland are "democratic socialist" countries. They also lead the world in education and health care.

I'm a big Trump supporter. But I'm very interested in Mr Bernie Sanders, and don't know enough about him. Thoughts, people?
Poor Old Bernie ... didn't he try this before? He wants to go down in the History Books as "oldest person who wanted to be President and LOST" .... or something.

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Re: Bernie Sanders

Post by Black Orchid » Mon Mar 04, 2019 8:50 pm

Socialism promotes non achievers which leaves people with little motivation and no ambition to achieve more. If you want to live in a fully socialist society move to Venezuela.

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Re: Bernie Sanders

Post by IQS.RLOW » Mon Mar 04, 2019 11:06 pm

Quote by Aussie: I was a long term dead beat, wife abusing, drunk, black Muslim, on the dole for decades prison escapee having been convicted of paedophilia

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Re: Bernie Sanders

Post by Nicole » Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:54 pm

Good video IQ, but I'm still a little confused.

My understanding (correct me if I'm wrong) is that the Scandanavian countries enjoy some of the highest living standards in the world, despite being "democratic socialist".

Don't get me wrong; I'm centre right, but I'm interested. Boondocker/Brad from the old Debate Relate site moved to Victoria from the USA. He changed his tune on a lot of things like health care, saying Australia was better, largely because it was more "socialist" in orientation than the States. This from a staunch Republican.

When 1% of the population have more wealth than the bottom 90%, you have to wonder.

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Re: Bernie Sanders

Post by IQS.RLOW » Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:53 am

Mistress Nicole wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:54 pm
My understanding (correct me if I'm wrong) is that the Scandanavian countries enjoy some of the highest living standards in the world, despite being "democratic socialist".
I would suggest you read far wider than you may be doing. Nordic countries are demonstrably market economies.
https://www.austriancenter.com/shatteri ... socialism/
https://fee.org/articles/is-norway-a-ro ... socialism/
When 1% of the population have more wealth than the bottom 90%, you have to wonder.
The only thing I wonder is, unless you subscribe to the propaganda of the politics of envy, why you would think this is a relevant economic marker?
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Re: Bernie Sanders

Post by Nicole » Wed Mar 20, 2019 7:50 am

IQS.RLOW wrote:
Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:53 am
Mistress Nicole wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:54 pm
My understanding (correct me if I'm wrong) is that the Scandanavian countries enjoy some of the highest living standards in the world, despite being "democratic socialist".
I would suggest you read far wider than you may be doing. Nordic countries are demonstrably market economies.
https://www.austriancenter.com/shatteri ... socialism/
https://fee.org/articles/is-norway-a-ro ... socialism/
When 1% of the population have more wealth than the bottom 90%, you have to wonder.
The only thing I wonder is, unless you subscribe to the propaganda of the politics of envy, why you would think this is a relevant economic marker?
Thanks for the articles IQ. They certainly cleared up some misconceptions.

I don’t subscribe to the “politics of envy” but in my book, when the top 1% has more wealth than the bottom 90%, I think we have a moral problem. I believe in an honest days work, for an honest days pay.

I am not particularly morally comfortable with passive income. I know this screams “socialist”, which I assure you I am not, but I believe if you want to put bread on the table, you should work for it. This applies equally to dole bludgers.

Thoughts?

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Re: Bernie Sanders

Post by sprintcyclist » Wed Mar 20, 2019 8:46 am

Mistress Nicole wrote:
Wed Mar 20, 2019 7:50 am
IQS.RLOW wrote:
Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:53 am
Mistress Nicole wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:54 pm
My understanding (correct me if I'm wrong) is that the Scandanavian countries enjoy some of the highest living standards in the world, despite being "democratic socialist".
I would suggest you read far wider than you may be doing. Nordic countries are demonstrably market economies.
https://www.austriancenter.com/shatteri ... socialism/
https://fee.org/articles/is-norway-a-ro ... socialism/
When 1% of the population have more wealth than the bottom 90%, you have to wonder.
The only thing I wonder is, unless you subscribe to the propaganda of the politics of envy, why you would think this is a relevant economic marker?
Thanks for the articles IQ. They certainly cleared up some misconceptions.

I don’t subscribe to the “politics of envy” but in my book, when the top 1% has more wealth than the bottom 90%, I think we have a moral problem. I believe in an honest days work, for an honest days pay.

I am not particularly morally comfortable with passive income. I know this screams “socialist”, which I assure you I am not, but I believe if you want to put bread on the table, you should work for it. This applies equally to dole bludgers.

Thoughts?
Good thoughts Nicole, I agree with you.
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Re: Bernie Sanders

Post by BigP » Wed Mar 20, 2019 2:58 pm

brian ross wrote:
Sun Mar 03, 2019 11:09 pm
Bernie Sanders represents a new hope for the United States. He wants the country to start caring for the less fortunate, the ones left behind on the scrapheap of capitalism. He wants a better education system, a better health system, a better democracy where the needs of the people are listened to, rather than ignored. In the US, he is considered on the far left. Downunder, he'd be on the slightly left of centre of the ALP. His views are not extraordinary nor strange, just different compared to what most US Presidential candidates have claimed. He gave Hilary a run for her money in the primaries for the 2016 election, I hope he actually gets the nomination and wins. Time for some sanity to return to the White House.

Hes a silly old communist prick and doesn't stand a chance of becoming president

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Re: Bernie Sanders

Post by Neferti » Wed Mar 20, 2019 7:14 pm

BigP wrote:
Wed Mar 20, 2019 2:58 pm
brian ross wrote:
Sun Mar 03, 2019 11:09 pm
Bernie Sanders represents a new hope for the United States. He wants the country to start caring for the less fortunate, the ones left behind on the scrapheap of capitalism. He wants a better education system, a better health system, a better democracy where the needs of the people are listened to, rather than ignored. In the US, he is considered on the far left. Downunder, he'd be on the slightly left of centre of the ALP. His views are not extraordinary nor strange, just different compared to what most US Presidential candidates have claimed. He gave Hilary a run for her money in the primaries for the 2016 election, I hope he actually gets the nomination and wins. Time for some sanity to return to the White House.

Hes a silly old communist prick and doesn't stand a chance of becoming president
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