ALP scrap the NBN

[Jovial Monk]

The handheld stuff will do quick, small bits of data, couple emails, quick tweet.

Fixed line does the heavy shifting which for households is increasingly video, for business it is uploading stuff to the cloud etc etc.

Mobile bb: 10–16% of all data (untill NBN rolled out more and more and video reduces mobile share again.)

Mobile bb cannot do the job of fixed cable, esp optical fibre. To understand this you need to read up on: spectrum, congestion, latency.

[Super Nova]

The handheld stuff will do quick, small bits of data, couple emails, quick tweet.

You are wrong. The trend setters will be giving us full mobility like:
- I am at home watching video
- I leave the house i still watch it on Ipdate/Iphone type device
- I jump in car it seamless turn on in the car.
- I drive to work.... hopeful with only the kids watching the video
- Goto office station... automatuically switches to PC

All of this without pushing a putton.

My data will follow me around via the cloud.

Fixed line does the heavy shifting which for households is increasingly video, for business it is uploading stuff to the cloud etc etc.

Cloud application will allow the content to be created and stored in the cloud. Office tools are available in the cloud now. The need to upload and download will disappear. We can do that today.

For example, today I am editing a large word document with 10 other people and only the changes are communicated. Large uploads and downloads have been eliminated.

User created content like video and photo I already upload via phone. It doesn't have to be immediate just reliable.

Large data mover are content creators... they are getting rarer as the definition of large changes.

Mobile bb: 10–16% of all data (untill NBN rolled out more and more and video reduces mobile share again.)

I look forward to you eating ypur words on that one.

Mobile bb cannot do the job of fixed cable, esp optical fibre. To understand this you need to read up on: spectrum, congestion, latency.

I understand that. However you forget and should read up on compression technology, cloud and application innovations, improvement in future mobile technology and the probability that we will move to a WiFi type coverage similar to mobile today.

A good backbone is needed. Not large pipes to every house.

[Super Nova]

I note the lack of response when Monk knows he is wrong.

[Jovial Monk]

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Awesome. My turn now.

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Monk doesn't understand we have moved from:

Central systems with mainframes and termals - light weight traffic
PCs and heavy processesing locally requiring large data traffic for some things
PC, phones, tablets with web browsers and light weight traffic again.

Full cycle in 20 years.

The Fred Flintstone of communications and IT is our Monk.

[Super Nova]

NBN is here to stay. Too much has been spent also thety are too far down the track to cancel it. i expect the government has contracted in such a way that it would cost more to turn anything off than to continue.

Telecommunications analyst Paul Budde says the Coalition now accepts the NBN is necessary but differs in its funding model. Mr Turnbull believes the private sector, not the Government, should finance the project.

I agree. This will be a white elephant unless the Private Sector get to drive it.

The Coalition's aim is not to cancel contracts but rather, renegotiate existing contracts where possible to accommodate different architectures and lower the capital cost of the network and hence, the end cost to consumers," Mr Turnbull said.

He told IT Pro "a range of architectures" would include fibre-to-the-premises for homes and businesses in greenfield areas; fibre-to-the-node where possible and HFC. HFC, or hybrid fibre coaxial, is used for networks that employ both fibre optic and copper cables, usually to deliver cable television. Fibre optics are used for the backbone up to nodes, then copper cables from the nodes to the premises.

Telstra's existing copper network is to be decommissioned as part of the NBN rollout, although the company has not yet revealed what it will do with the actual cables.

There you go. As I have stated for the lasdt 2 years, big pipes to the area... cheaper delivery technology to the home....

Link to articale: http://www.theage.com.au/it-pro/governm ... 217f3.html

[Neferti]

I still reckon that if "they" have to dig trenches to lay the "cables" I will never get it. Too bloody expensive. ALL services are underground here in my area, and when Broadband eventually reached Canberra, it was announced that EVERYONE would get cable. Absolute BS. All most of us got was ADSL since digging was "too expensive". ADSL is pathetic.

New suburbs here (and there are a few) already have the NBN in place as part of the cost of but I don't know who or how many have taken that up. Most new houses are still being built.

It is an Election Year for the ACT Micky Mouse Government, so they are trying their best to NOT associate themselves with Gillard .... and rightly so. Canberra is a Labor/Greens stronghold.

[Super Nova]

News today 2/7/12.

What Gillard means is "on the Labor Government is commited to spending $36b irelivent of the benefits"

The Coalition cannot commit to scrapping it because it would be a complete waste of money totally to cancel contracts that I bet have huge penalities to get out of. That's why. They will need to adjust them to deliver more value.

Prime Minister Julia Gillard insists only Labor will build the national broadband network (NBN) despite the coalition's backflip on cancelling the project.

After promising to terminate the NBN if it comes to power, Opposition communications spokesman Malcolm Turnbull has been quoted by Fairfax as saying the coalition won't cancel an estimated $1.8 billion worth of contracts already signed by NBN Co.

Asked about the coalition's change of heart, Ms Gillard said only Labor could guarantee the $36 billion project, which the government expects to have completed by late 2020.

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"The only government that will build the national broadband network is this Labor government," Ms Gillard told reporters in Melbourne on Saturday.


Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/it-pro/governm ... z1zRt7HFno

[Jovial Monk]

Report documenting rapid growth in FTTH:

http://www.fiercetelecom.com/story/nort ... 2012-04-10" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

That is FTTH not silly FTTN. FTTH with its high bandwidth both un and down is the only way to go! Thank god Labor had the guts to go ahead with NBN Mk 2! LNP has been hopeless on broadband, like 21 policies in 10 years, none of them a goer!