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Re: Fed up with Japan's nuclear accidents?

Post by mellie » Wed Mar 21, 2012 8:00 am

And furthermore Mattus, investigations concerning the degree of contamination are still under-way, so what you have deduced from scant and vague interim reports is a tad premature don't you think?

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http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/site/?page ... -34574-JPN



Is there such thing as a "safe" nuclear waste spill/accident?

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Re: Fed up with Japan's nuclear accidents?

Post by mellie » Wed Mar 21, 2012 8:36 am

Lest we forget Japans covert nucleon (neutrinos) experiments.

Did you think they were merely generating electricity at their said decommissioned nuclear plants?

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A little historical info...
http://www.physics.ucla.edu/~hauser/neu ... ah_mod.htm

Refere to section 3. Long Beamline Neutrino Experiments concerning Japan in the above link.



In other words, I don't believe all these spills are 'accidents' .... but public environmental outrage makes for a convenient camouflage/decoy doesnt it.

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Re: Fed up with Japan's nuclear accidents?

Post by mantra » Wed Mar 21, 2012 8:52 am

Conspiracy pontificater wrote:
mantra wrote:That's an excellent site. I've bookmarked it. It's a wealth of information. I had no idea there was a flood in Cairns today or there were so many dozens of earthquakes going on all over the planet. The USA leads the way in emergencies and disasters ie chemical spills and there's even a section for mass death of animals.
You will be delighted to know all these things, I am sure, mantra. It will give you more fuel to vote Green. However .... Bob Brown cares less about animals.
I'm certain he cares about the animals - but in regard to conspiracy pontification - some believe that David Rockefeller is the brainchild behind women's lib and multiculturalism - and rumour of his latest plot is to ensure that the Greens become well established in Australia in order to slow the economy down to a standstill.

This could be believable only for the fact that our governments whether Labor or Coalition are determined to sell out every square inch of viable agriculture and grazing land to foreign capitalists for mining and exploration.

The Greens are essential, if only to play a small part in trying to slow down the process of deforestation and destruction of prime Australian land. We're now starting to realise that the imbalance of capitalist pursuits for energy is putting every country in danger of disasters such as earthquakes and tsunamis resulting in the terrible collateral damage to human life we can see in places like Japan.
A series of small earthquakes in Ohio late last year was probably caused by activity from fracking, a controversial oil and gas drilling technique, a state review concluded Friday.

The Ohio Department of Natural Resources said its review of the quakes in northeast Ohio last December appeared to be caused by a rare confluence of events in which wastewater injected into the ground triggered seismic activity in an unmapped fault area.

"Geologists believe induced seismic activity is extremely rare, but it can occur with the confluence of a series of specific circumstances," the report said.

"After investigating all available geological formation and well activity data, (state) regulators and geologists found a number of co-occurring circumstances strongly indicating the Youngstown area earthquakes were induced."

It concluded that disposal fluid from the Northstar 1 well "intersected an unmapped fault in a near-failure state of stress causing movement along that fault."

With the report, Ohio's oil and gas regulators announced new standards for transporting and disposing of brine, a by-product of oil and natural gas hydraulic fracturing, or "fracking," saying the rules will be "among the nation's toughest."

The new rules call for a review of geologic data for known faulted areas within the state and a ban on locating certain disposal wells within these areas.

The state will also require oil and gas operations to plug with cement any wells penetrating into the Precambrian basement rock and prohibit injection into these formations.

The report is the latest to raise fresh questions about fracking, a technique that offers the potential to unlock vast quantities of natural gas from shale formations but has come under intense scrutiny from environmentalists.

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=8433209" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;"

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Re: Fed up with Japan's nuclear accidents?

Post by mellie » Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:00 am

http://www.physics.ucla.edu/~hauser/neu ... ah_mod.htm

Refere to section 3. Long Beamline Neutrino Experiments concerning Japan in the above link.

I don't think all these spills are 'accidents' per say.
Second largest construction after the Great Wall of China

In recent days, it became much more likely that KM3NeT (home page), i.e. Cubic Kilometre Neutrino Telescope, would begin to be built in 2012.
http://motls.blogspot.com.au/2011/12/km ... n-sea.html
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Mantra, a Kyoto protocol isn't quite as green as some think it is, to the contrary in fact.

What's worse, Dr Bob Brown knows fine well what it is.

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Re: Fed up with Japan's nuclear accidents?

Post by mantra » Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:11 am

Mattus wrote:Yairs. And it appears nothing bad ever happens in Russia and China!

Or perhaps the USA just does a better job of monitoring and reporting these risks? No?
You are probably right. Russia and China would keep a lot of their trials and errors hidden from the rest of the world, but it's still no excuse as to why a sophisticated country like the US endures so many toxic disasters. Many of them involve accidents at Nuclear power stations. Nuclear advocates would love us to believe that depleted uranium is quite benign when it disperses after leaks, but they are becoming less believable as evidence is now clear on the defects caused by long term exposure to this toxin. Depleted uranium permeates the land, sea and the atmosphere and doesn't dissipate as most other processed minerals do. It remains active and toxic for many thousands of years - so it may as well be considered destructive forever.

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Re: Fed up with Japan's nuclear accidents?

Post by mantra » Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:16 am

mellie wrote:http://www.physics.ucla.edu/~hauser/neu ... ah_mod.htm

Refere to section 3. Long Beamline Neutrino Experiments concerning Japan in the above link.

I don't think all these spills are 'accidents' per say.
Second largest construction after the Great Wall of China

In recent days, it became much more likely that KM3NeT (home page), i.e. Cubic Kilometre Neutrino Telescope, would begin to be built in 2012.
http://motls.blogspot.com.au/2011/12/km ... n-sea.html

Mantra, a Kyoto protocol isn't quite as green as some think it is, to the contrary in fact.

What's worse, Dr Bob Brown knows fine well what it is.
I'm becoming a little cynical myself about some of these climate change agreements especially as they contradict any real effort to clean this planet up.

I was joking about Bob Brown and Rockefeller - although he could be working through the IMF and Gillard.


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Re: Fed up with Japan's nuclear accidents?

Post by mellie » Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:24 am

These covert tests are being conducted in the vicinity where the 'little leak' occurred in Japan recently Mantra, this and testing is being overseen by the UN.

ironic, eh!!

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Take a look...

Make a note of the region.
http://www.nu.to.infn.it/Neutrino_LBL/


Kyoto, more than just a 'green' protocol.

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Re: Fed up with Japan's nuclear accidents?

Post by mellie » Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:27 am

And Mantra, I know you were joking about Bob Brown and Rockefeller, but I wasn't.



Mantra, bobs a red, not a green. Sorry. :|

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Re: Fed up with Japan's nuclear accidents?

Post by mantra » Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:31 am

Perhaps the Japanese don't think sacrificing a 100,000 or so people is any big deal. There certainly hasn't been as much publicity on this as there should have been.

Atomic ocean tests, deep sea drilling and longwall mining all cause surface cracks although this is certainly denied by the scientists and investors.

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Re: Fed up with Japan's nuclear accidents?

Post by mellie » Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:34 am

mantra wrote:Perhaps the Japanese don't think sacrificing a 100,000 or so people is any big deal. There certainly hasn't been as much publicity on this as there should have been.

Atomic ocean tests, deep sea drilling and longwall mining all cause surface cracks although this is certainly denied by the scientists and investors.

They and we call it UN sanctioned progress.





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