Abbott's divisiveness

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Re: Abbott's divisiveness

Post by mantra » Thu Mar 01, 2012 7:38 am

Mattus wrote:The government wants you to breed, because the economy is based on increasing consumer demand, and that requires more consumers. Therefore both parties wish to incentivize breeding.

Abbott has realised that a baby bonus only seems to incentivize junkies and dole bludgers to breed. He would prefer more successful people were out breeding, hence the salary adjusted maternity payments. But this is doomed to failure too.
Yes. Consumerism really raised its ugly head under the Coalition government although it has slowed down a little over the past year or so. Capitalists are under the mistaken belief that a good economy means that we need to produce enough to satisfy the whims and wants of everyone - hence the GFC and the continual rise in CO2 emissions.

Big business needs consumers and they also control our government/s. While third world countries struggle to eat and obtain basic necessities, the developed countries encourage wanton waste all in the name of feeding the multinationals and their shareholders.

As far as salary adjusted maternity payments - women who are on lower incomes tend to be the ones who are forced back to work fairly quickly after giving birth through necessity. This scheme is to ensure that the plebs are kept in their place.
If the government wants us to breed, then foster the conditions of nesting. Give us peace, prosperity, and job security. No govvie hand out is going to make up for a lack of these in getting successful people enthusiastic about starting a family.
I don't know why we're being encouraged to breed so prolifically. It is the lower socio-economic demography which tend to have the larger families and raise them on welfare. Many of them will not be fit for the workforce due to the lack of education facilities, larger class sizes and low standard of teaching in many schools.

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Re: Abbott's divisiveness

Post by Outlaw Yogi » Fri Mar 02, 2012 11:47 am

Mattus wrote:The government wants you to breed, because the economy is based on increasing consumer demand, and that requires more consumers. Therefore both parties wish to incentivize breeding.
Quite so. But large population does not equal wealth, as they seem to imagine.
One only need compare the standard of living of Scandinavian countries with tiny populations to that of India with a massive population, to see the error of their rationale.


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So this obsession with population growth via breeding and immigration, will in the not too distant future induce a scenario very much like China's 1 child policy, with tax incentives for celibacy and penalties for breeding. Mark my words.
Unless there are plans being made by a higher power to use the excess population as cannon fodder for a potential WWIII.
Yes quite right. I didn't take into account that our military has been planning for a large war in south Asia within the next 15 years, as of 13 years ago. So if their expected timing is accurate, we're almost there.
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Re: Abbott's divisiveness

Post by Mattus » Fri Mar 02, 2012 10:50 pm

Outlaw Yogi wrote: One only need compare the standard of living of Scandinavian countries with tiny populations to that of India with a massive population, to see the error of their rationale.
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Re: Abbott's divisiveness

Post by boxy » Fri Mar 02, 2012 11:04 pm

GDP per capita... go fetch :P
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Re: Abbott's divisiveness

Post by Mattus » Fri Mar 02, 2012 11:06 pm

boxy wrote:GDP per capita... go fetch :P
That's personal wealth. GDP is govt wealth. We were talking about why the govt likes big populations / growth.
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