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New Age Police
Victoria's Police Chief Commissioner Ken Lay is trying to enforce to their male police officers that they are all clean shaven and with no ponytails.
Wonder if Ken will also be insisting that the female officers are also clean shaven, (will he personally check ).
And will he insist that all the female officers have the femo nazi hairstyle?
Oh and will he ban those with tattoos?
"TOP cop Ken Lay is facing a legal stoush to get a clean-cut force.
A rebel band of officers say banning beards and ponytails is a breach of their human rights.
The Victorian Equal Opportunity and Human Rights Commission will investigate whether the force's new appearance standards are discriminatory after receiving complaints from rank and file force members.
The Herald Sun has learned about a dozen officers have complained in writing to the commission.
They have been exempted from the new policy, which came into effect on January 1, until the issue is resolved.
Among facial hair banned under the edict are beards, handlebar moustaches, mutton chops and goatees.
Women in the force will also face disciplinary action if they wear make-up or nail polish that is not natural looking or in neutral tones.
Ponytails and most jewellery has been banned for male and female officers.
Among those who have written to the commission are a senior detective and a police prosecutor.
A veteran officer of 30 years said his facial hair was staying on.
"We are members of the police force. We are also members of the community," he said.
"It's a matter of principle. I'm all for the Chief Commissioner giving instructions and I'm all for professional uniform appearance, but making us shave off our beards takes it a little too far.
"Victoria Police is 150 years old. I bet there were police commissioners who wore beards back in the day."
The Police Association, which supports the force's new edict, has vowed to fight for members who face disciplinary action but has urged them to adhere to the policy.
The union has told members its legal advice from Slater & Gordon is that the new policy is lawful under the Police Regulation Act.
Association assistant secretary Bruce McKenzie said it would not support members through any commission hearings but it was bound to defend them against internal discipline.
"We fear some of our members may be a victim of disciplinary action, but if that's the case we will defend them," he said.
"We have a job to do here and that is to support our members whether we agree or disagree with the (Commissioner's) instruction."
The force is yet to make a ruling on tattoos.
Insp McKenzie flagged the association would take action if its members were forced to remove tattoos or wear long sleeves to cover them.
"All of our members should be treated the same," he said.
Facial hair was banned until former chief commissioner Christine Nixon relaxed regulations.
Under the new policy members who have beards for medical, cultural or religious reasons are exempt.
Victoria Police says an overwhelming majority of police were in favour of the new appearance code and there had been no "significant disciplinary matters".
The commission confirmed it had received complaints and would try to resolve cases through a "confidential conciliation process"."
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/more-n ... 6245845429
Wonder if Ken will also be insisting that the female officers are also clean shaven, (will he personally check ).
And will he insist that all the female officers have the femo nazi hairstyle?
Oh and will he ban those with tattoos?
"TOP cop Ken Lay is facing a legal stoush to get a clean-cut force.
A rebel band of officers say banning beards and ponytails is a breach of their human rights.
The Victorian Equal Opportunity and Human Rights Commission will investigate whether the force's new appearance standards are discriminatory after receiving complaints from rank and file force members.
The Herald Sun has learned about a dozen officers have complained in writing to the commission.
They have been exempted from the new policy, which came into effect on January 1, until the issue is resolved.
Among facial hair banned under the edict are beards, handlebar moustaches, mutton chops and goatees.
Women in the force will also face disciplinary action if they wear make-up or nail polish that is not natural looking or in neutral tones.
Ponytails and most jewellery has been banned for male and female officers.
Among those who have written to the commission are a senior detective and a police prosecutor.
A veteran officer of 30 years said his facial hair was staying on.
"We are members of the police force. We are also members of the community," he said.
"It's a matter of principle. I'm all for the Chief Commissioner giving instructions and I'm all for professional uniform appearance, but making us shave off our beards takes it a little too far.
"Victoria Police is 150 years old. I bet there were police commissioners who wore beards back in the day."
The Police Association, which supports the force's new edict, has vowed to fight for members who face disciplinary action but has urged them to adhere to the policy.
The union has told members its legal advice from Slater & Gordon is that the new policy is lawful under the Police Regulation Act.
Association assistant secretary Bruce McKenzie said it would not support members through any commission hearings but it was bound to defend them against internal discipline.
"We fear some of our members may be a victim of disciplinary action, but if that's the case we will defend them," he said.
"We have a job to do here and that is to support our members whether we agree or disagree with the (Commissioner's) instruction."
The force is yet to make a ruling on tattoos.
Insp McKenzie flagged the association would take action if its members were forced to remove tattoos or wear long sleeves to cover them.
"All of our members should be treated the same," he said.
Facial hair was banned until former chief commissioner Christine Nixon relaxed regulations.
Under the new policy members who have beards for medical, cultural or religious reasons are exempt.
Victoria Police says an overwhelming majority of police were in favour of the new appearance code and there had been no "significant disciplinary matters".
The commission confirmed it had received complaints and would try to resolve cases through a "confidential conciliation process"."
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/more-n ... 6245845429
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This is ridiculous, when you cant even enforce a work-place uniform code, this or discipline some dick-head wanna-be Shane Warne in a police uniform, seriously, what is this?
How can the public respect a cop wearing a ponytail?
If he turned up to my door, i'd probably think he was a stripper and start giggling...well, until he tazored me.
Toss him, Make an example of him, he's supposed to be representing the police force, not expressing himself as an individual.
Dont like short hair, dont want to shave, then go work somewhere else.
Like military officers, as soon as you put that uniform on, this and step outside your door, you are no longer your own personal property, so if "Being an individual' is important to you in your workplace, and discipline isn't your thing, then find a job where this wont impact or make the rest of the force look like buffoons.
You watch, if they let this one get away with it, they'll all be Occupying doughnut King with ponytails demanding "Individuality and self expression entitlements.
Where do you draw the line?
Some of the police-woman have beards, time they shaved theirs off too.
Or do we want a pack of feral hippies representing our police force?
How can the public respect a cop wearing a ponytail?
If he turned up to my door, i'd probably think he was a stripper and start giggling...well, until he tazored me.
Toss him, Make an example of him, he's supposed to be representing the police force, not expressing himself as an individual.
Dont like short hair, dont want to shave, then go work somewhere else.
Like military officers, as soon as you put that uniform on, this and step outside your door, you are no longer your own personal property, so if "Being an individual' is important to you in your workplace, and discipline isn't your thing, then find a job where this wont impact or make the rest of the force look like buffoons.
You watch, if they let this one get away with it, they'll all be Occupying doughnut King with ponytails demanding "Individuality and self expression entitlements.
Where do you draw the line?
Some of the police-woman have beards, time they shaved theirs off too.
Or do we want a pack of feral hippies representing our police force?
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I don't see any issue except from the public's lack of respect towards the police.
But is that any different to the blobs dressed up in a police uniform.
Imagine a couple of Mr Plods trying to enforce thelaw in the mode of former Police Commissioner Christine Nixons atheletism.
But is that any different to the blobs dressed up in a police uniform.
Imagine a couple of Mr Plods trying to enforce thelaw in the mode of former Police Commissioner Christine Nixons atheletism.
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Re: New Age Police
mellie wrote:This is ridiculous, when you cant even enforce a work-place uniform code, this or discipline some dick-head wanna-be Shane Warne in a police uniform, seriously, what is this?
How can the public respect a cop wearing a ponytail?
If he turned up to my door, i'd probably think he was a stripper and start giggling...well, until he tazored me.
Toss him, Make an example of him, he's supposed to be representing the police force, not expressing himself as an individual.
Dont like short hair, dont want to shave, then go work somewhere else.
I have a conservative view on this too. We like our police to look clean cut and straight. It gives you assurance they will do their job properly, although that's only a superficial assurance. They can still be corrupt - short hair or not.
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I hope the Movember people are onto this.
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Re: New Age Police
All good Nazis must wear shiney boots.
If Donald Trump is so close to the Ruskis, why couldn't he get Vladimir Putin to put novichok in Xi Jjinping's lipstick?
Re: New Age Police
Indeed... our targets must be easily identifiable.Outlaw Yogi wrote:All good Nazis must wear shiney boots.
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Ban the police gangs.
If Donald Trump is so close to the Ruskis, why couldn't he get Vladimir Putin to put novichok in Xi Jjinping's lipstick?
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