Phobos-Grunt losing altitude?

[mellie]

And what effect on our atmosphere does radioactive particles (from space junk) in space have I wonder?

The amount of crap out there is startling, functional satellites aside, call me paranoid, but I think Australia needs to consider arming-up, if not to protect itself from weaponised nations but to be at least able to send some sort of projectile into space to stop dubious satellites re-entry in our nations atmosphere.

Now Russia have a space station over in Perth, they were the last to make contact with Phobos-Grunt from Perth, well, presuming they have in fact lost contact with it as they claim.

A number of Russian satellites have seemingly lost contact after launch in recent years, I cant help but wonder if this is really the case and or if they have found some way of communicating with them we aren't aware of just yet.

Phobos-Grunt was a joint Russian-Chinese adventure, if they had found another way of communicating with it ...this and or were even controlling it would they tell us...given they are of the opinion the US's HAARP facility may have been the reason they lost contact with it to begin with?

There have been a number of satellite orbital collisions in recent years, just bad luck I guess...

[mellie]

http://www.universetoday.com/26372/russ ... to-phobos/

There was bacteria, spores, seeds, crustaceans, insects and fungi on board phobos-Grunt....Russians sent a small zoo apparently.

Now imagine, if what they had sent was anthrax spores, this and they had all intentions of the mission failing, and this satellite re-entering in an enemy nations atmosphere?

Ok, this is a bit out there, but after the re-entry, how on earth would scientists be able to track it?

This or determine what really was on board in the way of organisms?

And now with privateers entering the space-race, their missions information being withheld from the public, how may we scrutinise their exploration?

[mellie]

Something to put your minds at ease... hmm, well perhaps not!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... Njy9MtKJGA#!

Was Phobos-Grunt really ever meant to make it to Mars' moon?

[mellie]

Alien crap aside, Phobos-Grunt is a potential weapon of biological nature plummeting to earth,(at the very least, a potential bio-hazard) be it intentional or otherwise.

Whilst the risk to human life might be minimal, there's no way of really telling what the nature/state of the organisms are on board this craft, and how they will react upon re-entry.

The fall-out from this satellite might be a treasure trove of well insulated/sealed and traceable super bugs in their canisters that could be used for developing bio weapons.

Just because the satellite burns up on re-entry, along with it's fuel, isn't to say the bugs in their insulated canisters will.

Who knows, when it's clear no international space authority has anything to say on the matter.

[mellie]

Recall when a US skylab showered the small Western Australian seaside town of Esperance back in the 70's?

When a 17 year old beer-truck helper Stan Thornton won $10000 for being the first to retrieve a smouldering piece of sky-lab off the roof of his house?

The community were all given miniature sky-lab models to place on their mantelpieces, aaaww, how sweet.

But things were not as optimistic as they first seemed, given the town has had some of the highest cancer mortality rates in Australia since.

Detailed information on the cancer incidence in Esperance 2002-2006 can be found at http://www.health.wa.gov.au/envirohealt ... 2-2006.pdf.

When to think, this sky-lab didn't even contain any potentially biologically hazardous material the way Phobos-Grunt does.


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Oops, too late, the government already pulled the document so ....

[mellie]

I may have spoken too soon re- biologically hazardous material not being on board sky-lab 1979 WA.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNd51OSY ... re=related

[Bart]

And what effect on our atmosphere does radioactive particles (from space junk) in space have I wonder?

And there's been numerous space vehicles sent out, so must be heaps of radioactive particles and even then none have landed on the moon


And remember, (motions to come closer)
closer.....
I have a secret to tell you
just a little closer

and I'll whisper it in your ear


In space...

no one, absolutely no one

can hear you fart

[Neferti]

rotten eggs!

[mellie]

We need to start thinking outside our own atmosphere when it comes to protecting our earth's environment.

Theres just so much junk, debris out there, so I have decided to give up stargazing and take up satellite watching instead.

Besides, we cant see most of the stars, planets with light pollution, smog and debris anyway, so thought I might as well observe what we can see(often with the naked eye if you observe on dusk) something known to be of concern to human health heading our way.

What do you guys think about microbes being shuttled into space and becoming potential bio-weapons of ...well , you know.

It sounds a little out-there I agree, Sci-Fi even, though despite the known risks to human health should one of these space-labs containing super-bugs re-enter our atmosphere and their germ canisters in tact, (or worse, spill in an ecologically vulnerable part of the world, ie the Amazon basin, Coral Reef, etc) then what?

After Sky-lab, scientists learned that taking microbes into space has the potential to not only modify their DNA and develop into new strains never seen before on earth under zero-gravity conditions, but can turn them into multi-resistant super-bugs of an entirely different genesis complete with their own 'alien' satellites growing around their spores in their petri dishes.


Should there be an international body set up to screen these space-labs before take-off?

And should this information be made public, not just confined to the international scientific space community in charge of these too-often corporate funded private missions?


http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news ... teria.html

Though it's not just bacteria, viruses, fungi and protozoa ...