Australia, as a guest worker nation?

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mellie
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Re: Australia, as a guest worker nation?

Post by mellie » Tue Dec 20, 2011 6:30 pm

And Skip, if the government insists the work is available to begin with, and enough so to warrant introducing an urgent "Guest-worker" program....(Effective by June next year after having completed a 3 year pilot program already) then it's clear, the work is in fact available, it's just a matter of getting those who need it most to where the work is.

If Labor claims to have the means to accommodation "guest workers" (hence they are introducing "Guest workers" ) then why not our unemployed own?

Look...

http://www.migrationexpert.com/australi ... er_program

And why not those who embark on our nation illegally also?


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Re: Australia, as a guest worker nation?

Post by mellie » Tue Dec 20, 2011 6:33 pm

Or is outsourcing all the rage with this unsustainable government of ours?

8-)

I guess this is one way of holding the growers industry, and our farmers to ransom... ie, if the government has the capacity to send all their workers home in one foul swoop, this or stop the "Guest worker" program after they have already borrowed funds off the bank to expand their farms, then are they likely to be more or less compliant with their government?

Ie...

"Shut up, do as we say, or else we'll send your workers back to where they came from"- Gillard

Remember, they can send them back just as quickly as they brought them here, this and like our Indonesian cattle export farmers, hold the entire sector to electoral ransom, finding excuses to punish them when ever the need arises.

If the farmers complain, this government will appoint human rights alliances to expose inevitable exploitation associated with "Guest Worker" programs right round the world.

In other words, the government will turn a blind eye to the exploitation of their "guest workers" while it suits them and growers are towing the line, but as soon as they start jumping up and down and opposing industry related legislation, over-regulation, watch all their human rights activists (organised via GetUp) come out of the woodwork -- As seen on Current Affair, lol

You don't think they will?

This government aims to destroy industry, wish to render us nice and needy.

Dont be fooled into accepting their burnt offering.


If you think a Guest Workforce is secure, think again.

.... And remember, Labors unions will preside over a guest workforce, so there will be much union intervention, all of which stands to advantage Labor long into the future after their government is dead.

And who will be left with the bill to implement community and guest worker support services?

Why the incoming government of course, because the only thing Labor want out of it in the long run is the union memberships.

Already, labor are hatching clever ways to sustain themselves through another 2 or so terms of being in opposition.

Introducing Guest workers guarantees union memberships and union oversight.

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Re: Australia, as a guest worker nation?

Post by mellie » Tue Dec 20, 2011 7:17 pm

Dont believe me?

Take a look at this...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farm_Labor ... _Committee

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Re: Australia, as a guest worker nation?

Post by Bart » Tue Dec 20, 2011 8:18 pm

mellie wrote:Or is outsourcing all the rage with this unsustainable government of ours?

8-)


All Australia wants the GALP to outsource the PM :yahoo :yahoo

Even a dead Kim Jong would be a lot better than Gillard & Brown!!! :rofl :rofl
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Re: Australia, as a guest worker nation?

Post by mellie » Tue Dec 20, 2011 8:26 pm

Bart wrote:
mellie wrote:Or is outsourcing all the rage with this unsustainable government of ours?

8-)


All Australia wants the GALP to outsource the PM :yahoo :yahoo

Even a dead Kim Jong would be a lot better than Gillard & Brown!!! :rofl :rofl

No not outsourced, more like off shored.... and as far away from us as possible.

:lol:

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Re: Australia, as a guest worker nation?

Post by skippy » Wed Dec 21, 2011 8:45 am

It all sounds great in theory mel but I just dont think it will work. Maybe in the very big farms like at Childers near Bundaberg where they grow a lot of Tomatoes but most small farms that need a bit of help would prefer to pay cash in hand to locals than have unemployed youth that are lazy little shits anyway.

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Re: Australia, as a guest worker nation?

Post by mellie » Wed Dec 21, 2011 6:17 pm

skippy wrote:It all sounds great in theory mel but I just dont think it will work. Maybe in the very big farms like at Childers near Bundaberg where they grow a lot of Tomatoes but most small farms that need a bit of help would prefer to pay cash in hand to locals than have unemployed youth that are lazy little shits anyway.

Well it's worked in the past, why suddenly the need for "guest workers" now?

I understand that due to the GFC and our high dollar we aren't getting the back-packer pickers we once did, but if we are intending on immigrating unskilled migrants to give them citazinship, why the need to double up and out-source "guest workers" also, when the illegals and unskilled migrants we are granting residency cant get jobs themselves?

Even those arriving with short-stay (study and work visas) cant get work so are living in crammed boarding houses this and are leaving with their qualifications once their coarse has finished, so their skills are not being put to good use here in Australia.

Likewise with 'Guest workers' they come during the picking season, take work off locals, then leave and spend the money back in their home countries.

Australia has never been a guest worker nation, but due to UN (WTO) intrusion, this is what this current government want us to become.

Just like the WTO demanded we start allowing fire blight bitten apples from NZ (lifting a 90+ year ban) to compromise our pip industry.

It all comes down to the UN and WTO wanting us to be anything but self sufficient, preferring we become the food bowl and mining quarry of the world.

Our snap-frozen vegetables no longer hit our supermarket shelves, we are now expected to buy inferior frozen foreign produce from China and the odd frozen product from New Zealand should you be lucky enough to find a NZ bag of peas on your shelf.

Likewise with peanut butter.

Gillard spruked "Sustainability" pre-election, however her policies render us anything but self-sufficient in terms of our being able to produce enough of our own produce to feed ourselves coupled with the nations we now export much of our produce to.

Labor have sold the farm, dam and mines, this and have sold our water also, wild rivers are being sold off to foreign water investors, and scum like Wilkie ,Katter and Oakeshott are happily sitting back and letting this happen to their electorates, when they know in the long run, it will destroy them and our industry.

We need water for mining and for watering our crops, Howard was right about water being the biggest issue facing Australians and their capacity to be self sufficient, though this government is happily selling it to foreign investors.

Google "Blue Gold Australia's water market.

They have successfully blocked indigenous communities from gaining royalties from the sale of their own lands water.

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