Gay marriage conscience vote

[skippy]

Most people "support" Homosexuals because they are fed up with hearing about it.

No, most people don't support gays wanting to be use the term marriage and therefore for gays be defined as being normal.

LIAR, but we already knew that.

[mellie]

No, most people don't support gays wanting to be use the term marriage and therefore for gays be defined as being normal.

LIAR, but we already knew that.[/quote]


Skippy, of all my gay friends, (4) 3 are opposed to gay marriage, the other I have yet to discuss this contentious issue with.

Fact--- The figures jumped too much from 2004 to 2007 for there not to be something fishy going on. At the very least, they are not as accurate as some suggest, this and are quite biased.

Why do they prefer and publish Galaxy polls (via GetUP) to more conventional polls?

Barts telling the truth skip... sorry to break it to you.

[skippy]

No, most people don't support gays wanting to be use the term marriage and therefore for gays be defined as being normal.[/quote]
LIAR, but we already knew that.[/quote]


Skippy, of all my gay friends, (4) 3 are opposed to gay marriage, the other I have yet to discuss this contentious issue with.

Fact--- The figures jumped to much from 2004 to 2007 for there not to be something fishy going on. At the very least, they are not as accurate as some suggest, this and are quite biased.

Why do they prefer and publish Galaxy polls (via GetUP) to more conventional polls?

Barts telling the truth skip... sorry to break it to you.

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LIAR

[skippy]

Sixty per cent back gay marriage: survey June 16, 2009
.Three in five Australians support gay marriage, a survey has found.

The poll conducted for Australian Marriage Equality found strong support for same-sex matrimony among even coalition voters.

The survey of 1,100 respondents found 60 per cent of Australians were in favour of same-sex marriage, with a similar number believing overseas gay marriages should be recognised.

Advertisement: Story continues below Among Greens voters, 82 per cent backed gay marriage, compared with 64 per cent of Labor supporters and 50 per cent of coalition voters.

Women were more likely to support gay marriage, with 65 per cent of them in favour compared with 51 per cent of men.

Support for gay marriage was strongest among Australians aged 16 to 24, with 74 per cent in favour, compared with 45 per cent for those aged over 50.

Australian Greens leader Bob Brown, who is openly gay, used the survey results to urge the Rudd government to offer same-sex couples more than civil unions.

"We're discriminated against under the marriage laws," he told reporters in Canberra, adding a Centrelink advertisement prompting equal benefits for same-sex couples was misleading.

"The Australian people are way ahead of the Rudd government and the Turnbull opposition."

When asked if the government needed the political support of Christian groups, Senator Brown said the Christian community had moved on.

"It would be supported, very likely, by a majority of the Christian community," he said.

Gay marriage is legal in Canada, Spain, Belgium, South Africa and in six US states.

Australian Marriage Equality national convenor Peter Furness said gay marriage would be recognised overseas, unlike civil unions.

"If someone has a marriage certificate, it puts their legal status beyond question," Mr Furness said, adding matrimony should be about love and commitment rather than gender.

The Greens' sexuality and gender spokeswoman Sarah Hanson-Young said the survey findings would put pressure on the national ALP conference, to be held in Sydney in July.

"There is obviously support in the Labor Party ranks ... to seeing this discrimination in the marriage act removed," Senator Hanson-Young told reporters, adding a number of Labor MPs abstained from voting when the Greens moved an amendment to the marriage act last year.

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[skippy]

And also a Neilson poll

Australians back gay marriage - poll November 22, 2010
.AAP

Most Australians support gay marriage, the latest Nielsen poll shows.

The poll, published on Monday in Fairfax newspapers, found nearly 60 per cent of people support same-sex marriage, with 37 per cent against.

The same poll also shows the federal coalition leads Labor by 51 points to 49 on a two-party preferred basis.

Advertisement: Story continues below But in Victoria, where voters go to the polls on Saturday, federal Labor holds a handy 53-47 lead, two-party preferred.

On same-sex marriage, 23 per cent of those polled said they strongly support legalising it, while 33 per cent said they support it.

This compares with 16 per cent who said they were opposed, 21 per cent who said they were strongly opposed, 5 per cent who said they neither supported or opposed it and one per cent who did not know.

Federal Labor also trails the Coalition on which party ais best equipped to handle interest rates and creating greater competition in the banking sector - by 14 percentage points on both questions.

On primary votes, Labor is up one point to 35 per cent since the last poll a month ago, but three points down on its election day result in August.

The Coalition's primary vote is unchanged on 43 per cent, while the Greens have dropped one point to 13 per cent.

Prime Minister Julia Gillard's support as preferred prime minister is steady at 54 per cent, while Opposition leader Tony Abbott's is up one point to 40 per cent.

When asked if the federal government should serve its full term, 55 per cent of respondents agreed but 42 oper cent said it was best an election was called as soon as possible.

The national poll of 1,400 people was taken between Thursday and Saturday.

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[mellie]

Fact:

In June 2004, a survey conducted by Newspoll showed that 38% of respondents supported same-sex marriage, with 44% opposed and 18% undecided.
Yet In June 2007, a new Galaxy Poll conducted for advocacy group GetUp! measured the opinions of 1,100 Australians aged 16 and over and said 57% of respondents supported same-sex marriage with 37% opposed and 6% undecided.
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Attitudes towards contentious such as this dont change over night, unless as the above demonstrates, Greens -via- Getup sort other polling avenues to support their agenda.

Which they did. OK

[mellie]

Dont believe me, then take a look for yourself.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recognitio ... _Australia

1) It depends on what poll
2) Who's financed the survey
3) Who their survey group is...(Guaranteed, they surveyed a young population and by their own admission, those over 16..(16 year olds cant even vote)--- and they have failed to provide any data to disclose their control survey group to date, the way more professional polls do.

They purchased their poll data, end of story, GetUp were paid by the Greens (social media campaign) before the 2010 election also.

[skippy]

TWO different poll companies, fuckwit, you're a moron dont waste my time. I always prove you wrong .You must feel stupid, you look it.

[skippy]

Guaranteed, they surveyed a young population

Wrong again, fuckwit, the first poll I posted even gives you an age breakdown, you are a moron,cant even read.

[mellie]

Now, if they truly believe these polls are an accurate depiction of Australians being overwhelming in favour of same-sex marriage, then why not take it to referendum to confirm this by allowing us to cast a vote for ourselves?



The UK are in the midst of demanding their government take this to referendum as we speak, and not because they believe more people than not are pro-same sex marriage, but like me, also think their polls are biased due to recent changes to our media and associated polls...and the 'greenification' of their parliament.