Has corruption in Australia increased in the last 3 years?

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mellie
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Has corruption in Australia increased in the last 3 years?

Post by mellie » Sat Dec 10, 2011 5:31 pm

Well an overwhelming majority of Australians seem to think so according to this.

http://www.transparency.org/policy_rese ... ndices/gcb

Do you think this is accurate?

Bottom line, more distrust a Gillard/Rudd (Labor) government than a Howard Liberal government, or is it a case of our all suffering with a severe case of altered-perception disorder?


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Re: Has corruption in Australia increased in the last 3 year

Post by mantra » Sat Dec 10, 2011 5:50 pm

I'm not sure whether it's increased or we're just hearing about it provided your chart is referring to politics. It's infiltrated our whole political system. Who can you trust? No-one!

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Re: Has corruption in Australia increased in the last 3 year

Post by mellie » Sat Dec 10, 2011 5:59 pm

mantra wrote:I'm not sure whether it's increased or we're just hearing about it provided your chart is referring to politics. It's infiltrated our whole political system. Who can you trust? No-one!

Though given as you say, increasing media censorship, and declining transparency, if it were a case of us just hearing about it more, then how so?


No, it's definitely on the increase, without a doubt, and so typical of a boorish, thuggish ALP stand-over union dictated government.


By the 2014 election, Labors only saving grace will be that our new generation of up'n'coming voters, (Kids currently still in high-school) might vote for them because they gave them a free-shitty school lap-top, this or will be too illiterate to vote at all ...lol

:bgrin

Everyone else has had a gut full of them!

I have a feeling Gillard may even loose her own Lalor seat and many more formerly 'safe' Labor seats.

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Re: Has corruption in Australia increased in the last 3 year

Post by mantra » Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:06 pm

Yes - my post was a bit of a contradiction. I hate agreeing with the negativity you've just posted Mel - but you're right. I was reading about this Ian MacDonald the other day and the story didn't say whether he was a Labor or Liberal MP. I even googled it and I thought he came up as a Lib - but a few days later, it said he was Labor.

The corruption is pretty horific in the party generally - and that's why I'm sticking to the Greens.

Interestingly enough a poll was recently conducted with a huge number of people and 67% of them were in favour of Turnbull. Now there's a better thought.

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Re: Has corruption in Australia increased in the last 3 year

Post by skippy » Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:10 pm

no

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Re: Has corruption in Australia increased in the last 3 year

Post by mellie » Sat Dec 10, 2011 7:04 pm

With the absence of transparency comes the consequence of their not having to take responsibility for their actions, because without the required information we need to scrutinise or hold any one of them accountable, we cant really form an opinion either way.

Thus, it stands to reason they will like dogs, run with a string of sausages, take advantage of this 'lapse' of public scrutiny and so the corruption worsens.

Fact, Gillard promised she'd rob the rich to feed the poor, 'distribute the wealth' but she hasn't even done that lol...and given Australia still has a high income tax rate and a moderately high (lesser) corporate tax rate what's changed?

Wheres this revolution?

:rofl
Ordinary persons tax is the same.. and the corporate tax rate is still a flat 30 percent. Note however that the thresholds for some intermediate tax brackets (aka middle-lower class) have been raised in the past two years.
It's ok, they aren't overly switched on, and probably haven't realised this and are too busy working their guts out to have noticed, or have they?

Could this be why they're striking?

Labor were very select when they targeted the blue collar class...hence they installed their unions to lull their drones.. unfortunately, this hasn't worked too well, as they are wondering why they got slogged whilst our politicians increased their salary's by up to 300% yet corporate tax remains the same as always.. dum da di da

Was carbon-tax supposed to be the pacifier?


It's a no show this or will be a very short lived production at best. :lol:

Look, make the comparison yourself...

Now.....

http://www.ato.gov.au/businesses/conten ... /44266.htm


Then (Under a Liberal government back in 2006)



http://www.ato.gov.au/businesses/conten ... &page=6&H6

Look ....



http://www.lowtax.net/lowtax/html/austr ... xation.asp


I gotta ask Skippy....what has a Gillard government done .... how the hell will Gillard write her biography ( After she's been ousted) when she has absolutely nothing to write about or show for her banal stay at the Lodge, even the carbon-tax looks like being a wipe-out, at best, a very short lived policy accident/product that went bad before it hit the shelf.

:bgrin



Labor will blame the Greens and Tony.. but think about it, who's to blame for their having done absolutely nothing but deliver us a deficit after having inherited a hefty surplus from a former more practised Howard government?


Really, what other than the questionable fact that she's our first female PM has she to write home about Skip?


Have I missed something, let me know Skip, I'm always on the lookout for a Gillard policy success/revolution...but really, I think it's time she called it a day.



:roll STALEMATE!

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Re: Has corruption in Australia increased in the last 3 year

Post by mellie » Sat Dec 10, 2011 7:16 pm

Gillards corruption on bent legs.

What made you think this government would conduct themselves otherwise, or be an improvement on the last?

:lol:


Would you give a bank-robber the key to your safety deposit box?

Why make Gillard your PM.


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Re: Has corruption in Australia increased in the last 3 year

Post by mantra » Sat Dec 10, 2011 7:17 pm

Gillard isn't going to give up. She'll have to be prised out with a pitchfork like Howard. There is a chance she might win the next election as there is a lot of disillusionment with Abbott. That's why Turnbull's name is being thrown into the mix again. Abbott needs to get his act together, but I don't think he can. He's burnt out.

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Re: Has corruption in Australia increased in the last 3 year

Post by mellie » Sat Dec 10, 2011 7:23 pm

mantra wrote:Gillard isn't going to give up. She'll have to be prised out with a pitchfork like Howard. There is a chance she might win the next election as there is a lot of disillusionment with Abbott. That's why Turnbull's name is being thrown into the mix again. Abbott needs to get his act together, but I don't think he can. He's burnt out.

She doesnt stand a chance... :lol:

Abbott has saved his best for last.


Remember, he was a journalist himself, this and is a staunch advocate of press freedom.

Do you really think he hasn't got an Ace up his sleeve, this or will let this dumpy pear swivel her way to the finish line without a good fight?

Think of the Hare and the Tortoise fable.... ha ha ha and Gillard knows it too, this is why ALP are shitting themselves and are thinking of calling it a day themselves before they disgrace themselves.

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Re: Has corruption in Australia increased in the last 3 year

Post by mellie » Sat Dec 10, 2011 7:40 pm

Gillard isnt going to give up?

Lol, she already has, (Has packed her bags and left the lodge) all the coalition has to do is let her run her course like a bad stomach virus.

:lol: We will recover, we have before. Our economy I mean! So all is not lost.

Labor knows they are finished, now it's just waiting to see who will knife each other first... Gillards packed up her ball and bat and gone home, it's just she forgot to tell Tim, because I think he's still there locked in the shed, has anyone thought to check?


Ps- Turnbull is a has-been this and has to be elected by his own party before he stands any chance of being elected by the public.

Look, if even his own don't want him, then really, it's just despotic old Gillard trying to titillate you into thinking otherwise.


:lol: What else has she got?

Nothing!

:lol:

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