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Super Nova
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by Super Nova » Wed Nov 23, 2011 8:22 am
This is a big concern for me. Now where ever I go on the planet, big brother will know where I am immediately. If someone was interested, they can track me as an individual in the sea of the masses just by seeing me on a CCTV camera.
I don't think we can do anything about this. No laws will hold it off for long. The geni is out of the bottle. We will all be tracked in the future. What a brave new world we have created.
The individual will have no privacy and no protection from those who want to know everything about each of our movements.
Is it the most significant policing technology since DNA testing or the next privacy disaster waiting to happen, setting us on the path towards, as The Guardian's editor puts it, "total surveillance"?
The battle lines have been drawn over face recognition technology, development of which Australia is at the forefront.
While NSW Police is keeping mum, the Australian Federal Police called face recognition a "potent tool" for linking criminals to crime while Customs said it could allow airport security clearances to be carried out in a more seamless fashion
Read more:
http://www.theage.com.au/technology/tec ... z1eTIWVFIm
http://www.theage.com.au/technology/tec ... 1nry4.html
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mantra
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by mantra » Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:31 am
There seem to be a lot of complaints about possible hacking, invasion of privacy etc. and ultimately this could all come true. Eventually cyber hackers could break into the program and alter essential components to allow the very worst to slip through the system.
Perhaps it wouldn't be so bad for this technology to be used in Australia or the UK, but then a lot of innocent people will be caught up in this also. Those from the Middle East and Eastern Europe fleeing persecution would be caught up in this net too and returned to their countries to be tortured or murdered.
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Super Nova
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by Super Nova » Thu Nov 24, 2011 7:52 pm
My biggest concern is that once you are on the system, you will never be able to go about your business without the powers that be knowing nearly your every movement.
This is the trend anyway.
Big brother knows what you are up to already through:
- Licence plate recognition systems
- CCTV cameras everywhere, particularly in London. (how is it in Australia?)
- Use of credit and debit cards.
- Passport - moving from country to country
- Your tax file number - bank accounts, tax ...etc
- Your mobile phone via GSM mast signal trianglation.
- Your mobile phone pinging your current GPS address or just storing them on the phone.
- Your satnav, it contains your trips that police can access if they get hold of it.
- Satnavs that have GSM phone commonent to provide your movements to the company to collect traffic patterns.
- Your DNA you leave everywhere can be matched at anytime in your life.
- Your fingerprints... old tech.
- Your information posted in the cloud... you don;'t knwo who accesses it.
- Twitter and facebook, you declare too much.
Now we will know where you are by facial recognition. That means if a central authority or anyone with the capability could get access to every image the world creates, you could track evryone on the planet in realtime.
I use to think that if I just do the right thing, I don't need to worry. I feel for the small number of people who will be incorrectly associated with something by circumstance and this evidences hangs them. I guess that has always been the risk.
This technological push will never stop. We need to be aware of it and be prepared if it identifies us incorectly.
I am not sure I like this brave new world, I guess it is a problem for another generation.
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HBS Gay
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by HBS Gay » Thu Nov 24, 2011 9:41 pm
Lefty and me do fathialth to each other Thuper Nova. I am thertainly not againtht it.
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mellie
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by mellie » Fri Nov 25, 2011 9:16 am
HBS Gay wrote:Lefty and me do fathialth to each other Thuper Nova. I am thertainly not againtht it.
Facial recognition, the case for and against.....

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Bart
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by Bart » Wed Nov 30, 2011 7:26 pm
Super Nova wrote:This is a big concern for me. Now where ever I go on the planet, big brother will know where I am immediately. If someone was interested, they can track me as an individual in the sea of the masses just by seeing me on a CCTV camera.
I don't think we can do anything about this. No laws will hold it off for long. The geni is out of the bottle. We will all be tracked in the future. What a brave new world we have created.
The individual will have no privacy and no protection from those who want to know everything about each of our movements.
Is it the most significant policing technology since DNA testing or the next privacy disaster waiting to happen, setting us on the path towards, as The Guardian's editor puts it, "total surveillance"?
The battle lines have been drawn over face recognition technology, development of which Australia is at the forefront.
While NSW Police is keeping mum, the Australian Federal Police called face recognition a "potent tool" for linking criminals to crime while Customs said it could allow airport security clearances to be carried out in a more seamless fashion
Read more:
http://www.theage.com.au/technology/tec ... z1eTIWVFIm
http://www.theage.com.au/technology/tec ... 1nry4.html
Big Brother will always be able to justify it's use, introduction and subsequent expansion. Of course we already have people movement tracking but that has only been publicised to police matters.
And of course there's the old rhetorical response to anyone who objects to this invasion, and make no mistake it IS an invasion of civil liberties and privacy, but they will reply with, if you don't do anything illegal then what have you got to worry about.
That is NOT the point!
Those that advocate that have not read and/or understood George Orwell's 1984!
Or even John Wyndham's The Chrysalids.
Women...if they had brains they'd be men
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mantra
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by mantra » Thu Dec 01, 2011 12:37 pm
I use to think that if I just do the right thing, I don't need to worry. I feel for the small number of people who will be incorrectly associated with something by circumstance and this evidences hangs them. I guess that has always been the risk.
I can't see there being a small number of people incorrectly arrested. It will be possible for them to track any group of dissenters or organised mass be it religious or political and many individuals will disappear. China and Russia in particular would take advantage of this technology for "security" reasons. If you had any sense you would have to avoid certain countries.
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skippy
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by skippy » Thu Dec 01, 2011 12:56 pm
mellie wrote:HBS Gay wrote:Lefty and me do fathialth to each other Thuper Nova. I am thertainly not againtht it.
Facial recognition, the case for and against.....

Wow, thats so sad, he would have looked better if he'd just kept the original.
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