Australia as a watermelon republic

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Re: Australia as a watermelon republic

Post by mellie » Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:49 pm

Ethnic wrote:The issue with republicanism is that it brings no benefit whatsoever to Australia as a nation for the 21st century in terms of our economy and identity. All it will do is drive a stake through the heart of who we were and who we are and give misguided fools bragging rights. Our British history will be rewritten and destroyed forever by the champagne socialists in the universities and government departments determined to stamp white people as genocidal racists. Keep the monarchy, it is what united us as a nation.
I agree, wholeheartedly, though how do you feel about our Queen encouraging us to become a republic?

This will confuse the shit out of your staunchest of monarchists...the little old lady down the street wont know what to do or think...if the Queen says consider a crowned republic (to facilitate global corporate behemoths ) , then perhaps she knows best is what a lot of naive die-hard royalists will think.

Cant you see whats happening here?

Ethnic

Re: Australia as a watermelon republic

Post by Ethnic » Fri Oct 14, 2011 1:04 pm

I wasn't even aware that she was advocating a republic. Why would she do that? Does she think that she has become irrelevant?

In any case I doubt that it would influence the majority of Australians who are anti-republic (60% last time I checked). I know that, with the popularity of Prince William and Princess Catherine, young people are embracing the monarchy in droves. Older Australians would never change their minds. She is too popular and her upcoming visit will only strengthen support for the monarchy.

I can't find any info on her saying that. When did she support a republic?

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Re: Australia as a watermelon republic

Post by skippy » Fri Oct 14, 2011 1:08 pm

I can't find any info on her saying that. When did she support a republic?
she hasn't,mel is just off an another little tangent, she loves a rant.

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Re: Australia as a watermelon republic

Post by mellie » Fri Oct 14, 2011 1:14 pm

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/1529 ... meet-Queen


Refer to the above links, and research them properly.

I knew something was fishy when the Queen gave a private donation (QLD flood appeal/Republican Anna Bligh) last year.

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Re: Australia as a watermelon republic

Post by mellie » Fri Oct 14, 2011 1:22 pm

The majority of those staunchly monarchist are over 50, ...I'm 35.

If the Queen made it known she supports Labors referendum for Australia to become a crowned republic, then ask yourself, would this be enough to tip a 5% swing in their favor, after having bribed Indigenous Australians with the promise of disposing of our queen, as head of state?

Australians need to know, that no matter what ...they must vote against our becoming a republic, or even crowned republic.

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Re: Australia as a watermelon republic

Post by mellie » Fri Oct 14, 2011 2:31 pm

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-10-14/q ... it/3571626

Check the line-up...she's chosen iconic likable or readily identifiable bogan Australian celebrities to appeal to a specific demographic, see if you can guess which one.


:cool Skippys demographic...

I didn't see Julian Assange or Andrew Bolt there.....(Those who might actually ask why they were invited to begin with) ... though note the foul mouthed frizzy haired football player ..ozy ozy ozy Oi Oi Oi ...I think I saw the St Kilda Schoolgirl somewhere there in the background.

No wonder Kylie Minogue was a no show..perhaps she was offended for having been mistaken for a gullible Australian celebrity "I TOLD YOU BEFORE QUEENY, I'M BRI'ISH, FORGET NEIGHBOURS, FORGET LOCOMOTION, FORGET E Street, and that I EVER CAME FROM AUSTRaa..OZ, ARStra or what ever it is again".
ha ha and check Elle's confected proper English , ... and Alf Stewart looked disorientated, had trouble finding his way back to the Summer Bay diner after the audition. Look at them, shiny beautiful gorgeous people with spongiform brains.



Ignore me, I'm just jealous, I didn't get an invitation of course... and I wouldn't mind Elles body.
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Re: Australia as a watermelon republic

Post by mellie » Fri Oct 14, 2011 4:45 pm

Ethnic wrote:I wasn't even aware that she was advocating a republic. Why would she do that? Does she think that she has become irrelevant?

In any case I doubt that it would influence the majority of Australians who are anti-republic (60% last time I checked). I know that, with the popularity of Prince William and Princess Catherine, young people are embracing the monarchy in droves. Older Australians would never change their minds. She is too popular and her upcoming visit will only strengthen support for the monarchy.

I can't find any info on her saying that. When did she support a republic?

The polls are artificially inflated, they are intentionally playing the concept of a republic referendum down.

It's about 57/43 to 60/40 but they wont reveal this prematurely, because the media, opposition, those who dare question their judgment might set about alerting the public to their republican short comings.....and besides, it's not supposed to be Gillards last-ditch attempt to snare votes...(it's the Queens idea and BHP's) who knows, the republic may end up being exchanged for a temporary abandonment of a carbon-tax, whereby Rudd comes back in, abandons the carbon-tax (will bring an ETS in after he's crowned Mr President) ... which is Gillards, aka his old ETS twice re-badged again anyway, and thats just in the last 4 years.

Perhaps the Big GALP House should get creative, and given the high PM, MP, staff turnover, turn it into a reality TV show... no need to head to the polls come election day, just vote them off and on like you do Big Brother.

Think of the sponsors, .... $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$4 The revenue, the publicity, the exposure....$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.....sparkle-foot Carl would make a fantastic game-show host, prancing around dressed as a woman one night, a man the next...(we'd never get bored)...

I truly am a genius!

Our politicians have been inching closer and closer to the entertainment industry in recent years, , ...this and appear to be enjoying the lifestyle of make-believe reality TV, so why not make it their make-believe Job, at least then we might actually get to see the real Gillard.


:thumb Call it Political Animal.

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Re: Australia as a watermelon republic

Post by Ethnic » Fri Oct 14, 2011 5:14 pm

Whatever the percentage of for/against is, any referendum held will fail and fail miserably. And when King William and Queen Catherine take charge then the republicans can cry in their organic corn flakes as they try to find their way through the socialist wilderness.

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Re: Australia as a watermelon republic

Post by mellie » Fri Oct 14, 2011 5:35 pm

Ethnic wrote:Whatever the percentage of for/against is, any referendum held will fail and fail miserably. And when King William and Queen Catherine take charge then the republicans can cry in their organic corn flakes as they try to find their way through the socialist wilderness.

Australians have become quite debased and politically disinterested/detached in recent years, would you believe me if I told you out of a survey of 100 senior students from a local high school, when asked if Liberal or Labor were in power, only 20% were certain either Labor or Liberal were in power...the rest guessed, and only 40% guessed correctly.
One kid responded with Bush even, lol.

When asked who their PM was, the responses came as follows...

Rudd 41%
John Howard 26%
The woman with the red hair 14%

The rest were undecided.

Few understood the difference between state and federal government, (7% knew for certain, 20% gave it a good crack)...none of them could recite one section of our constitution, this and every single one of them believed free speech was lawful, was their legal right.
:blink

It's hard getting into a game of sport in real-life or even watching it on TV without losing interest, be it football or cricket...if you don't understand the rules of play.

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Re: Australia as a watermelon republic

Post by Ethnic » Fri Oct 14, 2011 6:25 pm

mellie wrote:Australians have become quite debased and politically disinterested/detached in recent years, would you believe me if I told you out of a survey of 100 senior students from a local high school, when asked if Liberal or Labor were in power, only 20% were certain either Labor or Liberal were in power...the rest guessed, and only 40% guessed correctly.
One kid responded with Bush even, lol.
Interesting. All the kids at my school know who the PM is which might explain why they hate the PM. Unfortunately it’s not unusual for young people to be disengaged with politics and not understand the core fundamentals of parliamentary processes. It doesn’t really get taught until Year 11/12 legal studies which only a handful of students enrol in. I’ve seen how teachers teach politics to primary and junior high school students and it’s always about the UN and human rights. The only time they go into political parties is to promote their love of the greens and unions. Rarely anything about how bills are made into law, the state/federal powers, electoral processes, the constitution, etc. Sad that the parents lack the knowledge as well.

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