Proposed addition to the Constitution

[Robina]

If you lay a charge against someone, moron, you are expected to provide particulars and some evidence.

So, particulars and evidence please?

If you can produce neither an apology is called for.

[mantra]

If you lay a charge against someone, moron, you are expected to provide particulars and some evidence.

So, particulars and evidence please?

If you can produce neither an apology is called for.

You seem to forget that I was working with the owner of this board when I spent 9 hours trying to log in on Sunday. No-one has to prove anything to you.

[mantra]

There have been too many incidents involving you Monk, your site and your access to various controls. You have lost all your credibility. You are untrustworthy. Aussie would have stood more of a chance if he had banned you at the beginning of his term.

[Robina]

Particulars and evidence please Mantra, else apologise for a false and unfounded allegation. Not shit you think in your muddled head, actual particulars and evidence. Come on!

[Robina]

Fucking lying bitch thinks she can just throw unfounded allegations around and not get called on them?

Come on Mantra, you made the charge, withdraw it or prove it!

[Robina]

To make it easy for you to back down I can say straightaway that I have NO access to controls here.

FD, Aussie and Annie can all attest to that.

[Robina]

I guess dear old Muddleheaded Mantra has run away, will stay away for a day then pretend she never made that unfounded charge. Hope she doesn't think that she will get away with that.

[The Artist formerly known as Sappho]

How can you have a petition unless you produce the necessary additional clause first?

Draft it yourself woman!!!! Why ask others to do your work for you!!

Because discussing it with others first tends to tease out the elements which are necessary for an appropriate clause. One person cannot necessarily think of all the elements. Such things as this benefit from the input of others.

[Super Nova]

Mantra,

A good idea. A review of the constitution is a very good idea. The wording needs to be clear and fit for purpose. It's purpose is to protect the rights and liberties of the form membership, not to protect the role ofthe exalted leadership.

In fact, a review was promised by Aussie when he was last elected. This has come to nothing. Aussie could not manage a change and it's confussing language plays into his desire to keep the precious because he can leap through the holes of it's ambiguity to meet his own agenda. That is, to keep the precious at all costs.

It is a good idea to discuss the any changes here and to work with others to craft a proposed change.

It is normal in the real world for a committee to review such documents and make a recomendations that leads to a proposed change that can be voted on. It stands a better change of passing if the voting members have a chance to contribute during it's crafting.

Nice to see a proactive proposal to fix what is fundamentally not working as it should in practice.

Who else would like to work with Mantra to review and propose some ammendments?

[mantra]

Thanks SN. The problem is if an administrator has his duties discharged and leaves a huge mess in his wake - then can be nominated again immediately and wins the role again because he's got his troops waiting in the background, the same old mess will be created all over again. Enough is enough.

The Constitution really does need to clarify this.

What's the point of everyone making a huge effort to get this board going again - if Aussie can reclaim it 5 minutes later.