nbn takeup failure

[Jovial Monk]

Wireless IS easier to hack! Mantra had her wifi set up hacked and it cost her $400!

Wireless bb is crap, will never get like 20mbps upload no matter whether Gen 4 or 40! Contention on wireless is a major issue, not nearly so much on fibre/NBN. Ping/latency on wireless is horrendous compared to fibre and the cost for a certain amount of data moved is much much less on fibre.

[Super Nova]

Wireless IS easier to hack! Mantra had her wifi set up hacked and it cost her $400!

Wireless bb is crap, will never get like 20mbps upload no matter whether Gen 4 or 40! Contention on wireless is a major issue, not nearly so much on fibre/NBN. Ping/latency on wireless is horrendous compared to fibre and the cost for a certain amount of data moved is much much less on fibre.

Rubbish. You can never say never. Advances in technology will show this statement to be untrue with 5 years.

Fibre will always be capable of more capacity. Why do you need such large speeds for the everyday use. I have 1mb and I view internet TV just fine.

Your arguments are flawed by a closed mind.

Btw. Wirelesss isn't more easily cracked if you secure it. I bet by going into the street and connecting a sniffer on your phone cable, unencrypted data will flow making it easier to hack. Beware of a telstra tent over a cable junction near you. It could be hacked off PAer hacking into your internet stream more easily than your wireless.

[Super Nova]

Wireless IS easier to hack! Mantra had her wifi set up hacked and it cost her $400!

Wireless bb is crap, will never get like 20mbps upload no matter whether Gen 4 or 40! Contention on wireless is a major issue, not nearly so much on fibre/NBN. Ping/latency on wireless is horrendous compared to fibre and the cost for a certain amount of data moved is much much less on fibre.

Also,

It is very unlikely that Mantra had the standard security and protections enabled or is using old equipment with easily cracked technology For her WiFi to be cracked with the later securities in place is highly unlikely to be cracked unless the default passwords or a simple password/number was known to the hacker. My advice is that everyone using WiFi should have security enabled and it be WPA2 compliant.

In 2004, the IEEE ratified the full IEEE 802.11i (WPA2) encryption standards. If used with a 802.1X server or in pre-shared key mode with a strong and uncommon passphrase and uncommon SSID (Used to salt the password) WPA2 is still considered secure by many IT professionals.

So you get hacked easily if you are using old equipmenmt. It is not valid to say, WiFi is insecure when today's security is. Things move and improve based on the threat. Security has improved.

Wireless Broadband: I now use wireless broadband when away from the office and it is great here in the UK. I can skype with great resolution, have constant streaming of music, access the web ...etc all with great speed. Good enough for the function. It feels the same as if I am in the office. It is great when on the move. So I just don't buy into it is crap statement. If you need superfast then you need NBN but most users will not need superfast at the moment. The wireless carriers see the threat from the internet and are doing many things to compete. Don't write them off yet. The game has only just begun.

NBN and wireless improvements will togetehr deliver what we want and need for the future. It is a flawed argument that we don't need wireless. It is not crap... it is great.

[Super Nova]

On WiFi hacking. Here is an article that thinks the same as me.

Source: http://www.theage.com.au/digital-life/c ... 1hl6v.html

Do people get what they deserve if they leave their Wi-Fi network unsecured?

Would you feel sorry for someone who had their car stolen, if you discovered they’d left their keys in the ignition and the doors unlocked? What if their house was robbed after they went on holidays and left the front door wide open? Leaving your home Wi-Fi network unprotected is just as stupid, yet people still do it.

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If you’ve got a Wi-Fi network, at home or at work, it’s essential to secure it by enabling WPA encryption and setting a password. Firstly you’re protecting yourself against leeches looking for free bandwidth, who could leave you with a throttled connection or a hefty excess data bill. You’re also guarding yourself again people using your network to do dodgy things while letting you take the blame. It’s still possible to hack into a secure network, but few people would bother unless they’re really out to get you like the neighbour from hell.

People seem to be learning about Wi-Fi security. I remember a time when everyone I knew had an open Wi-Fi network near their home, but they’re becoming harder to find. It’s partly due to user education and partly due to the fact that more vendors now ship their wireless gear secured by default. If people would just Read The Frickin’ Manual they’d see how easy it is to enable password protection. A few years ago one of the major Wi-Fi hardware vendors told me they had to sell their gear unsecured because they couldn’t afford to handle all the support calls from dopey customers who couldn’t connect to their new wireless point. This sounds a little cold but I can see their point.

Despite all the warnings, open Wi-Fi networks are still out there and it doesn’t take very long to find one if your go war-driving at night. Even if just one or two percent of networks are unsecured, as found in this SMH Online story, that still equates to tens of thousands of open networks across Australia. Should we feel sorry for these people? It's not that hard to enable encryption, even if you're a newbie. I might sound like a tech-savvy snob, but surely if you buy any new product or service - from a sports car to a smartphone - it's your responsibility to learn how to use it safely.

The German courts have inflicted 100 euro fines on people who failed to secure their Wi-Fi networks, after open networks were used to download pirated music. While I’m generally not a fan of the nanny state, this might not be a bad idea. What do you think, should we protect people from their own stupidity?


Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/digital-life/c ... z1STE6qiBS

[Super Nova]

One more and the point is clear. WiFi is secure. People who do not set up their WiFi with security are fools.

People who think WiFi is not secure do not know what they are talking about or are fools too. Be informed and proactive with security. Make sure your network is secure. Happy WiFi-ing. Now let me use a smiley.

Now let me scroll down to submit post

Source: http://www.theage.com.au/technology/sec ... 1hhrm.html

Wi-Fi hijackers cause download of trouble



Aaron Cook
July 16, 2011 .

Neighbour from hell Wi-Fi hacker gets 18 years jail

THOUSANDS of Sydney households are placing their personal information at risk and inadvertently protecting fraudsters and users of child pornography by not securing their home Wi-Fi networks, a Fairfax investigation has shown.

NSW Police have prosecuted individuals for crimes involving fraud and child exploitation material who were using unsecured wireless internet networks to commit offences, said Bruce Van Der Graaf from the NSW Police fraud squad.

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''This results in the innocent user being asked to explain why their internet service was used,'' he said.

An internet security expert from RMIT University in Melbourne, Mark Gregory, said unsecured Wi-Fi could attract attacks on any devices on the same network, leading to the loss of personal data, such as bank statements and credit card numbers. ''The likelihood that the Wi-Fi will be used by someone else is high,'' he said. Hackers can turn home computers into robots, using them to send spam and attack other computers.

''All of the detrimental effects of being hacked will then follow, except the hacker has been given an easy and exploitable way into the network,'' Dr Gregory said.

Wi-Fi is a technology used to make an internet or computer connection available to wireless devices such as laptops and smartphones within a range of about 100 metres from a transmitting device.

Fairfax discovered unsecured Wi-Fi networks in 10 out of 20 residential locations visited during a test across Sydney. In total, 382 networks were detected with 2.6 per cent operating without password protection.

Dr Gregory estimates 20 to 30 per cent of homes are operating Wi-Fi networks. Extrapolating Fairfax's results, there could be more than 10,000 unsecured networks across Sydney.

The arrest in March of a man in Buffalo, New York, by armed Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents, who threw him down some stairs and called him a paedophile and pornographer, highlighted the danger of leaving a network unsecured.

The man's Wi-Fi router was used to download thousands of images of child exploitation and it took three days for investigators to establish his innocence. His neighbour was later charged with distributing child pornography.

Nicolas Suzor, a law lecturer at Queensland University of Technology, said that if an unauthorised user illegally downloaded copyrighted material, it could be traced back to the network owner. ''It could be quite difficult to prove that it wasn't in fact you,'' Dr Suzor said.

To secure your network: http://www.staysmartonline.gov.au


Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/technology/sec ... z1STFiiiBR

[Jovial Monk]

Windoze wifi is not very secure unless you have a very high end wireless router/firewall.

Wireless has hurdles of spectrum, latency, attenuation and congestion to face and will never offer anything like the low latency/low contention and sheer bandwidth of fibre. At the shorter end of the useable spectrum the radiation behaves like light and can only be used as fixed bb.

[Jovial Monk]

A bit technical, busting the NBN myths by:

Peter Ferris (GM of Design and Planning at NBN Co) doing a presentation at Macquarie Uni "Myth-busting the National Broadband Network". Quite long but a great listen, just fast forward to 5:30 when he starts speaking.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6a2ne1WKxek

From whirlpool: http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-re ... 1759825#r1

[Jovial Monk]

NBN rolling on and on. . .

NBN Co signs new contracts for Victoria and WA rollout

Minister for Broadband, Communications and the Digital Economy Senator Stephen Conroy today welcomed the signing by NBN Co of new contracts for the further rollout of Australia’s world class National Broadband Network.

NBN Co today announced it had signed agreements for the large-scale deployment of the NBN with Transfield Services in Victoria and with Syntheo – a Lend Lease/Service Stream joint venture – in Western Australia.

"Today’s announcement of contracts for the fibre deployment and design in Victoria and Western Australia are a further example of how the Gillard Government is getting on with the job of building our world class NBN for all Australians," Senator Conroy said.

"Australians deserve the best broadband network we can build and I congratulate NBN Co on the signing of these contracts that will see the rollout commence in Western Australia in October and Victoria in November."

Senator Conroy also welcomed the release by NBN Co of start dates for the rollout in six of the previously announced 19 second release sites.

"The announcement of the dates is great news for those communities and another indication that our world class NBN is a reality," Senator Conroy said.

The dates are:

Geraldton WA, October;
Victoria Park, WA, November;
South Morang, Victoria, November;
Bacchus Marsh, Victoria, November;
Mandurah, WA, December; and,
Brunswick, Victoria, March 2012 (extension to existing works).

The contracts follow the successful agreement of terms with Silcar in June to begin rolling out the NBN in Queensland, New South Wales and the ACT. The new contracts mean approximately 60 per cent of the total of NBN construction activity over the next two years that has been awarded to contractors.

http://www.minister.dbcde.gov.au/media/ ... s/2011/248

[Jovial Monk]

Great fucking news on the NBN!

iinet have released their permanent prices (not the trial prices:)

iiNet all wired up for broadband

AUSTRALIA'S third-largest broadband provider will today reveal its retail pricing for the government-owned national broadband network. iiNet has designed three plans ranging from $50 for entry-level plans to $100 a month for the fastest download speeds and effectively unlimited data allowances.

Its NBN retail prices are the same as what it now charges to download 40 gigabytes and 200 and 1000 gigabytes on ADSL services, but customers can opt for much faster speeds than universally available today.

Commercial services in the five mainland test sites are expected to start next month. Perth-based iiNet also said wholesale access charges on the NBN would be 40 per cent cheaper than what Telstra charged it for access prices in regional areas.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/business/iinet-al ... z1YNNJaeLN

The actual prices: http://www.iinet.net.au/nbn/

With the likes of IQ downloading huge volumes of hi-def bestiality porn the NBN will make good profits. Add in video over the net (TVIP, video phone calls etc) and it will be huge.

[Maxine]

Kiama at centre of NBN price war

Preliminary work has begun on the expansion of the National Broadband Network in greater Kiama, as broadband providers continue to target early network users.

Major broadband provider iiNet yesterday joined the list of companies which have released NBN pricing plans, with deals ranging from $50 for a basic package to $100 for the fastest download speeds and maximum data allowance.

The company's cheapest deal is $10 per month less than rival Internode's entry level offering.

Commercial services are due to launch next month and trial users have already reported speeds approaching 100 megabits per second.

Kiama council safety officer Bruce McLeish said there had been a "significant increase" in speed since his Kiama Downs home was connected about four weeks ago. He said his home theatre system was also linked to the new network.

"The NBN allows facility for streaming movies, which I haven't done, but the software automatically streams previews that are released," he said.

http://www.illawarramercury.com.au/news ... 97027.aspx

Lucky bastards!