Is this man a guilty bigot or a law-abiding citizen?

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Re: Is this man a guilty bigot or a law-abiding citizen?

Post by Aussie » Sat Jul 05, 2008 8:52 pm

Morally, he is guilty as you can be. As far as Texan Law goes, he is innocent.

Ergo, Texan Law sucks.

If he did that in Australia, he would be convicted of murder, on his own confession.

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Re: Is this man a guilty bigot or a law-abiding citizen?

Post by IQSRLOW » Sat Jul 05, 2008 9:10 pm

Morally, he is a hero. As far as Texan Law goes, he is innocent.

Ergo, Texan Law rocks.

If I related this act to another country's laws then I would build a completely useless argument.

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Re: Is this man a guilty bigot or a law-abiding citizen?

Post by pakistani_dalek » Sat Jul 05, 2008 9:20 pm

imitation is the sincerest form of flattery IQ...

The man is guilty...
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Re: Is this man a guilty bigot or a law-abiding citizen?

Post by Aussie » Sat Jul 05, 2008 9:24 pm

How, IQ, can shooting men in their back, as they flee from a burglary, killing them, be morally correct?

Stupid question, given your avatar, but do try to answer it, hey?

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Re: Is this man a guilty bigot or a law-abiding citizen?

Post by IQSRLOW » Sat Jul 05, 2008 9:32 pm

How, IQ, can shooting men in their back, as they flee from a burglary, killing them, be morally correct?
How can morals be 'correct'?
According to his morals, his actions were correct and the courts agreed that he was also legally within his rights

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Re: Is this man a guilty bigot or a law-abiding citizen?

Post by Aussie » Sat Jul 05, 2008 9:46 pm

The man had no morals, or courage at all.

He was told not to shoot, but he ignores authority, and adopts (if he even knew it at all) Taxan Law and shoots a burglar IN THE BACK.

Yeah, real courage there. Medal for that guy, please!!!!

Great State, that Texas.

More than one cowardly murderer came out of it.

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Re: Is this man a guilty bigot or a law-abiding citizen?

Post by IQSRLOW » Sat Jul 05, 2008 9:56 pm

The man had no morals, or courage at all.
Ahh- so really it's only according to YOUR morals that he was incorrect.

Thankfully your morals are not required to convict or acquit and are about as useful as what I wiped off the bottom of my shoe this morning

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Re: Is this man a guilty bigot or a law-abiding citizen?

Post by Aussie » Sat Jul 05, 2008 10:09 pm

Ahh- so really it's only according to YOUR morals that he was incorrect.
Yes, I reckon I've made that very clear.

How about you.

Morally, if you see some bloke, eg DT, run off off with his neighbour's tea cosy, can you really expect to get off scot free if you shoot him in the back with a shot gun, killing him, for the theft of a tea cosy?

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Re: Is this man a guilty bigot or a law-abiding citizen?

Post by IQSRLOW » Sat Jul 05, 2008 10:19 pm

Yes, I reckon I've made that very clear.
No, you didn't. You stated the morally he was guilty and morally he was incorrect
Morally, if you see some bloke, eg DT, run off off with his neighbour's tea cosy, can you really expect to get off scot free if you shoot him in the back with a shot gun, killing him, for the theft of a tea cosy?
Legally, I am unable to take that course of action here- morally, I'd toast that sucker and I don't even like tea.

You have no moral objection to stealing then?

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Re: Is this man a guilty bigot or a law-abiding citizen?

Post by JW Frogen » Sun Jul 06, 2008 3:11 pm

Aussie, is morality universal?

Or is it an outcome of cultural function?

I am not saying I agree with it.

But in Texas one’s property is inviolate.

To break into some one’s home is considered as bad as attacking them. You just don’t do it without risking serious consequences, every Texan knows it. (Except maybe those in Austin.)

Perhaps it is a hold over from the old west, when loss of a horse could mean financial disaster, even death, or loss of cattle ruin, but Texans is different.

The rules are clear, the consequences quick and straightforward, unfortunately these two criminals did not seem to do their homework when they moved there to steal and break the law.

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