Ethical Dilemmas

[Socky the Sock.]

Good answer socky but it does assume a context of past practice and has a bit more knowledge about what is required in order to issue it than I have..

Agreed... comes from working in management and administration. But still... in a small office it would not be uncommon for cheques to be issued without proper recording conventions used. It's the lack of proper accounting that allows one partner to rip off another partner; that allows the profit margin of a larger company to drop inexplicably which in turn leads to job lay offs in order to return the profit margin to its standard for the reporting season. Turning a blind eye is not appropriate... particularly if you are responsible for expenses as it can lead to more serious consequences.

Let's try the next one... which is more difficult because it entails friendship and life threatening illness.

It's the classic appeal to emotions verses ethical responsibly.

You have worked as a bank teller for several months when one of the other tellers
who has become a good friend tells you that her daughter is extremely ill and that
she must have an operation to survive. She also tells you that she has no insurance
and the operation will cost $10,000. Sometime later you ask her about her
daughter and she tells you she is just fine now. She then confides in you that she
took $10,000.00 from a dormant account at the bank to pay for the operation.
She assures you that she has already started paying it back and will continue to do
so until it is all returned.
What do you do?

[Rainbow Moonlight]

Check if she is paying it back. if she is, then nothing. Her daughter's life is clearly worth more than loyalty to the bank. Also, her "borrowing" will be discovered anyway should the user/owner of the account turn up.

[Socky the Sock.]

Check if she is paying it back. if she is, then nothing. Her daughter's life is clearly worth more than loyalty to the bank. Also, her "borrowing" will be discovered anyway should the user/owner of the account turn up.

OK... a little back ground knowledge here... on large data bases such as we are talking about, staff are allocated a logon id. That logon id leaves footprints. So your checking the account will leave footprints. You would then need to explain your reason for accessing that account should the discrepancy be discovered.

[Rainbow Moonlight]

Then her accessing it has left footprints. Do nothing. It is not my business. Her daughter's life is worth more than loyalty to the bank. It is her decision and she has made t. She will bear the consequences if what she has done is discovered. Given the information you said , i might tell her that and see if she wanted to go and talk to someone higher in the organisation about it.

[Socky the Sock.]

Then her accessing it has left footprints. Do nothing. It is not my business. Her daughter's life is worth more than loyalty to the bank. It is her decision and she has made t. She will bear the consequences if what she has done is discovered. Given the information you said , i might tell her that and see if she wanted to go and talk to someone higher in the organisation about it.

But this has nothing to do with bank loyalty. The woman has used bank facilities to steal $10,000.00 from a private citizen so she can pay for her daughters life saving operation.

[Rainbow Moonlight]

The private citizen's account is dormant. They are not using the money. She is paying it back. Her daughter's life was at stake. She owed more duty to her daughter than to the bank. I don't think it is wrong to steal to keep your child alive. (If you have no other way to do so.)

[Socky the Sock.]

The private citizen's account is dormant. They are not using the money. She is paying it back. Her daughter's life was at stake. She owed more duty to her daughter than to the bank. I don't think it is wrong to steal to keep your child alive. (If you have no other way to do so.)

You are suggesting that money which is not being used after 5 years in an untouched account is up for grabs. Aside from life saving surgery, is there any other reason why stealing from those accounts would be justified. What if a woman has been denied further government funding for facial reconstruction resulting from DV because the compensation outlay of 10 years ago has been paid in full. But this new technique, unavailable then, will level out her eyes giving her a more human looking face. Can she hack the bank to access dormant accounts? She assures us that she will pay it back.

[Jovial Monk]

Don’t move the goal posts.

Banks, employers more generally, are very selfserving when it comes to their employees with the top execs now taking home 100x the average salary at a company rather than 10x as used to be the case before neocon fuckery became established.

[Socky the Sock.]

Don’t move the goal posts.

Banks, employers more generally, are very selfserving when it comes to their employees with the top execs now taking home 100x the average salary at a company rather than 10x as used to be the case before neocon fuckery became established.

This is about stealing money from private citizens with dormant bank accounts. It has nothing to do with self serving employers.

[Jovial Monk]

You were talking about loyalty to a bank.