Labor face disaster if........

[Viking King.]

ITT: Monk, leftwinger and Viking all trying desperately to defend an out of control govt who's wasteful policies have not only resulted in throwing money away, they have resulted in deaths. Only someone as brain dead as Monk could still champion the idea even after it has been canned by the party because even they know they can't hide the rorts and the deaths that THEY allowed.

Well done on celebrating liebor and their fucking hopelessness you useless fucking tards

For the first time EVER checks and controls were installed in the retrofitting of insulation industry

For the first time ever, checks and controls were necessary because of the cowboys and rorting that liebor attracts

Streets and suburbs were submitted to this massive rort that didn't even have insulation put in. This is the sort of business that liebor attract- crooks and theives

Dear Wankalot,
You are the boss on a construction job, you employ a young person that has never done the work before but he looks very confident and keen, you tell him to go dig a hole at a particular spot, and off he goes, 10 mins later there is an explosion and gas is everywhere. WHO IS AT FAULT?
You are because you did not explain with a JSA how to approach the site and job in a safew manner to prevent injury.
The person/company paying for the work cannot be held accountable, the laws and regs do not work that way.
You make yourself out to be a very compitent person, go look it up, it's all in the WorkCover website,
all 21,000 pages worth.

[IQS.RLOW]

You can try to pin the blame on contractors all you like, but when it is a govt funded scheme and the 'contractors' rorting the scheme are many, the fault and failure rests solely at the feet of the incompetent govt that introduced the rort

[lisa jones]

It amazes me just how ignorant some people are when it comes to OHS and contractors.

There are way too many myths in here.

[harry climber]

You can try to pin the blame on contractors all you like, but when it is a govt funded scheme and the 'contractors' rorting the scheme are many, the fault and failure rests solely at the feet of the incompetent govt that introduced the rort

The government have a duty of care with virtually all aspects of our way of living such as professioanl qualifications in employment.
What those who are suggesting that it isn't the government's role to do so are suggesting that it is the individual who is at fault for doing what the government has allowed them to do.

[Viking King.]

It amazes me just how ignorant some people are when it comes to OHS and contractors.

There are way too many myths in here.

Meaning what??

OH&S laws, rules and regs are put in place to proctect all 4 corners of the boxing ring (sqaure)
they are not there only to protect the worker, they are there for everyone.
Here's a simple but very unfair situation;
Work is being done on a shop front, there are solid barriers and danger tapes put about to prevent people walking on the site whre the work is done, one idiot has chosen to walk inside the area and ignore the safety barriers because it was 3 feet out of the way and too far to walk, the person is injured,
The contractor can be sued and fined hundreds of thousands of dollars even though they did everything according to rule and regulation, the shop owner paying for the works is not at fault.

[Jovial Monk]

One more time then you can spout all the fanboi bullshit from the Oz all you like.

There were FEWER deaths and fires per 1000 installations than there would have been if those 1.2m installations had been done in the normal way at the normal rate over the next how ever many years. Safety standards, training courses are now in place that weren’t in place before. I am sorry none of you lot can think for yourselves but that is not my fault and not my problem.

[IQS.RLOW]

Even the liebor govt stopped trying to sell this dog of a programme. You spouting rubbish from Crikey doesn't make it any more successful but it does show the amount of spin needed for anything liebor introduces

[Viking King.]

Oh you lib lover pillow biters all think the same,
It's a Lab plan, it's no good, it's stuffed, it will ruin me blah blah blah,
the same shit goes on in parliament and gov't,
The libs put forward a bloody good plan/proposal, we have all seen it, can't deny it,
but don't put it into action, it never eventuates,
but then the Lab party say the same thing and all you do is cry about how hopeless the idea is because labor is now thinking of it even though 5 mins before it was great because the lib spoke of it.
You libs really are off the road in stuck in the mud ditch and won't admit you are in need of inspiration.

[IQS.RLOW]

It's a Lab plan, it's no good, it's stuffed, it will ruin me blah blah blah,

History shows that if liebor are involved, they will fuck it up

[Viking King.]

It's a Lab plan, it's no good, it's stuffed, it will ruin me blah blah blah,

History shows that if liebor are involved, they will fuck it up

And history shows that when the Lib pillow biters are in they only ever think of themselves and how good the bank account looks for the rich who want to rip the system off with less tax at tax time,
when will the rich get in into the head that without the low lifers of the working class that create wealth for the big fellow, there would be no big fellow.
And history also shows that your kind of response is just typlical of pillow biters, Scream when the tax is too much.
Do you really believe that the average worker Mr Manual Labor wants to pay more tax when he is struggling to save $5 ?
Wake up.