Can Australia become a super-power?

[Sappho]

So rather than seek to be a super power mellie... why not allow Australia to declare its neutrality instead.

Let's eat Swiss Cheese!

[mellie]

We don't need to decide, we just need to step aside and let what has to be done, done.

Us, Israel, the UN need to be brought down a peg to restore balance... and together Russia, China, and Iran will ensure this happens, and within our lifetime so prepare yourself for a real change of climate....

We need to start being more autonomous and self sufficient...

We need not be any given nations bitch.

Gillard made the right move re- the China meeting yesterday....

America are desperate, this and are in no position to make demands right now.

[Sappho]

So it sounds like neutrality is the perfect solution.

[mellie]

Spot on... autonomy and self empowerment through strategic geopolitical neutrality.

You aren't so dumb after all...

[mellie]

Becoming a superpower shouldn't be about overpowering other nations, exploiting/destroying them ..it should be about taking possession of your own nations autonomy, searing your own ship.

Our US codependency has become outdated and unhealthy, time we did things differently.

Progressive politics should be about making progress.

What has let Gillard down more than anything else is her lack of confidence, and more than anything else, her party.

Out of everything else she's done/or hasn't done... her one decision to cease backing a dead horse this and become more neutral , may very well be a defining moment in Australian history...be the moment when we for once, start making decisions for ourselves, this and finally grow up.

This one decision alone could set our nation up for better times to come.

[Sappho]

Your stipulations upon the notion of what it is to be a superpower fails to appreciate the very vital and significant role they play... responsibility that exists beyond the boundaries of their nation. It is this responsibility that gives rise and justifies criticism when the superpower is deemed to have failed in their external responsibilities.

Who would Australia take responsibility for and without the responsible support of a greater superpower such as America? New Zealand perhaps... certainly that would be about the limit given our limited military might. You can't be a superpower without some kind of external responsibility and you cant have that external responsibility without the military might to honour it.

Military might is not merely domestic, it is found amongst allies also. Aside from NZ, who would be our allies? Or more poignantly, given your disinclination towards the US, who would join us in separating their ties with the US?

Neutrality, which has no enemies and no allies, can be the only option that satisifies you vision. But before Australia could declare itself neutral, it would first have to become a Republic.

[mellie]

The term super-power itself is expired, ostentatious and narcissistic... I prefer the less American sounding term world leader, a nation worthy of setting an example for others this and doesn't preach not what they do.

Who coined the term Super-Power?

Probably Americans themselves.

Well, they are far from worthy of leading, this or setting any sort of example for any nation, they went too far this time, it was only a matter of time.

It's like they have socially engineered and networked their own destruction, when they tweeted Libya from afar.

And what cements this fatal flaw in Obamas regime, is the fact he didn't gain permission from congress, and neither did Israel when they supplied Libyas rebels with missiles well before it started.

Terrorists shouldn't be world leaders.

He needs to give back his Nobel Peace prize.

Theres nothing Nobel or Peaceful about his war crimes.

[Sappho]

Again, world leadership implies responsibilities that are beyond the national boundaries of that world leading nation. The same problems arise that I spoke of in the post above yours Mellie.

Neutrally requires no worldly responsibilities, merely domestic responsibilities.

[mellie]

Dont forget, Assange Will be on the ABC tomorrow evening, and no wonder the US wanted him dead, he exposed them for what they are, this and provided proof.

One step at a time.



Night, I have to get some shut eye.

[mellie]

Neutrally requires no worldly responsibilities, merely domestic responsibilities.-sappo

One needs to be able to demonstrate they are capable of taking care of themselves, before presuming to be capable of leading others, yes?

It will take time, but I believe we will get there, ... fact is, Gillard or Obama don't have much say in the matter, their US, UN, failure to lead responsibly has enabled Russia, Iran and China to gain leverage here.

And Gillard is right about one thing, it's time Rudd shut his pie hole... he should go eat some ear wax and do what he does best, ... when I think of what this is, i'll let you know.


Perhaps he should try his hand at gardening...