NBN Business case released!

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deepy

Re: NBN Business case released!

Post by deepy » Sat Apr 02, 2011 9:31 am

harvey wrote:
deepy wrote:Could you explain why consumers have not taken up the readily available high speed broadband services now and have, instead, switched to wireless?


I would suggest that it is far too expensive, too intrusive with getting installed, too restrictive as you are only connected from one source, whereas wireless is far cheaper, extremely mobile and provides a very good service.

The fall in fixed line internet connections is attributable to all this.

The answer is not so much in what a fixed line offers, it is in what it doesn't offer. The argument from the indoctrinated is to compare one with the other in technical terms. But wireless trumps fixed line (whatever form that takes) by its one key advantage - mobility. And the arguments by the indoctrinated are rendered irrelevant by global consumer trends.

All they need do is look to what the consumer has done in the past, compare it with what the consumer does today, and then project that into the future.

Where there have been massive roll out of fibre optic take up is still low. In Korea, for example, they are predicting a fall in fixed line (and they have an extensive fibre optic network) and growth in wireless.

All the technical talk is just blather if the consumer doesn't care about it, they just want to talk to their friends while on the move. Social networking is still in its infancy. It is becoming a phenomenon.

Jovial Monk

Re: NBN Business case released!

Post by Jovial Monk » Sat Apr 02, 2011 10:23 am

All the technical talk is just blather
yeah yeah, that is just avoiding questions about latency, attenuation, bandwidth and the like.

Sure you can twitter and facebook all you like via mobile, but uploading a 1080p video to YouTube? Something else again.

And about that data via mobile bb dropping? You have an explanation? *** crickets ***

Wireless is a supplement to the NBN, not a replacement, competitor or threat.

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Re: NBN Business case released!

Post by IQS.RLOW » Sat Apr 02, 2011 10:53 am

Looks like the $36bn will either blow out or it won't be built
http://www.google.com.au/news/url?sa=t& ... 6032276488

It's what has been the issue all along Monk. It's not about your "OMG!!! 1Gbps!!! I've just swallow conjobs load!!!"

It about a massive expenditure on something that has been shown that not many people want or need by a govt that has a history of waste and mismanagement.

But let me guess, you don't care how much it costs, just that you get it so you have at least one project labor can say they delivered...
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Re: NBN Business case released!

Post by Jovial Monk » Sat Apr 02, 2011 11:34 am

So the NBN has rejected some tenders. It is what they should do.

A govt hat has coped really well with the GFC won’t fall to pieces because a few companies tried to rip off the NBN Co. Talk about childish!

Why don’t you do your usual mature thing, log on to Whirlpool and flame, then PM a few of the people there and call them fluffy bunnies. That is about the extent of your technical arguments, isn’t it?

Yes, I want the NBN here for personal selfish reasons, wireless bb sucks. But I also want it for its nation building aspects, its aspect of dragging Australia into the 21st century as who wouldn’t bar a few Lib fanbois?

Jovial Monk

Re: NBN Business case released!

Post by Jovial Monk » Sat Apr 02, 2011 2:51 pm

latest ABS figures out

http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf ... enDocument

Lookit them data figures, look how THE FIXED load is zooming, wireless pretty static.

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Re: NBN Business case released!

Post by harvey » Sat Apr 02, 2011 3:05 pm

IQS.RLOW wrote:Looks like the $36bn will either blow out or it won't be built
http://www.google.com.au/news/url?sa=t& ... 6032276488

It's what has been the issue all along Monk. It's not about your "OMG!!! 1Gbps!!! I've just swallow conjobs load!!!"

It about a massive expenditure on something that has been shown that not many people want or need by a govt that has a history of waste and mismanagement.

But let me guess, you don't care how much it costs, just that you get it so you have at least one project labor can say they delivered...


You forgot the ALP's prime objective - to deliver a massive unnecessary debt.
And they did that in the first 12 months.

Jovial Monk

Re: NBN Business case released!

Post by Jovial Monk » Sat Apr 02, 2011 3:07 pm

deepy wrote:So you can't explain why globally the take up of wireless is exploding?

I can let you know in very simple terms. One word will do it.

Mobility.
Actually, I did explain it, mobile data a very immature market.

But I am glad to know people are buying mobile bb devices for mobility. Kind of like buying a car to travel, eh?

Jovial Monk

Re: NBN Business case released!

Post by Jovial Monk » Wed Apr 06, 2011 6:06 pm

NBN Co buys Comptel code for OSS project

Systems taking shape.

NBN Co's operations support system architecture has started to take shape after acquiring software and services from Finnish vendor Comptel and the project's systems integrator IBM.

Comptel revealed overnight that it would deliver fulfillment software for the NBN Co OSS "in collaboration with partner Alcatel-Lucent".

"This is a major agreement with a new customer," the vendor said in a statement, adding that the contract would run over multiple years.

"NBN Co will use Comptel's catalog-driven fulfillment solution, including logical and service inventory and service lifecycle management, to ensure wholesale services are delivered fast and efficiently on the network to the retail channels.
http://www.itnews.com.au/News/253557,nb ... oject.aspx

Roll on NBN. . .

Jovial Monk

Re: NBN Business case released!

Post by Jovial Monk » Thu Apr 07, 2011 9:36 pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12970249

thank goodness here it is NBN not Telstra rolling out fibre!

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Re: NBN Business case released!

Post by Jovial Monk » Fri Apr 08, 2011 11:12 am

http://www.scribd.com/doc/52532010/NBN-Media-Release

NBN appointed 12 RSPs to supply superfast broadband to the mainland trial sites starting September.

Roll on NBN . . .

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