Labor admit carbon-tax not really about saving the world

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Re: Labor admit carbon-tax not really about saving the world

Post by Ned Kelly » Mon Mar 14, 2011 5:28 pm

mellie wrote:
mantra wrote:
So here it is, this is tantamount to saying "we are only doing it to impress the international community aka United Nations because they get 10% of our carbon-tax revenue if the thing gets passed."-The real Julia Gillard
I've seen no information stating that we will be giving 10% of a carbon tax revenue to other nations.
Gillard said so, would you like the transcript?

Yes!

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Re: Labor admit carbon-tax not really about saving the world

Post by mellie » Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:52 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xv3OLKsQ83k

http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-...-poor-nations/

'Prime Minister Julia Gillard's new tax will be used to allow Australia to meet its share of a $100 billion-a-year United Nations fund to transfer wealth from rich countries to help undeveloped nations adapt to global warming.

The Gillard Government is party to a UN agreement which Climate Change Minister Greg Combet entered into in December at a meeting in Cancun, Mexico, under which about 10 per cent of carbon taxes in developed nations will go into a Green Climate Fund.

Julia Gillard lies about brining in a carbon tax then lies about where the money goes, Deputy Leader of the Opposition exposes at least 10% goes to United Nations World Government;

10% GST - to Australian Government
10% of Carbon Tax to a World Government
full details of 1/March/2011 question time can be found here:

http://www.aph.gov.au/house/house_news/Index.asp
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Re: Labor admit carbon-tax not really about saving the world

Post by Ned Kelly » Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:54 pm

I checked all those sites......I should have known better...................mellie, show me exactly where Gillard mentions '10%.'

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Re: Labor admit carbon-tax not really about saving the world

Post by IQS.RLOW » Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:01 am

Change tack much? Now you don't want to argue the point, only semantics

Typical of your fucking bullshit.

Is any percentage acceptable to you, fuckwad?
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Re: Labor admit carbon-tax not really about saving the world

Post by mellie » Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:12 am

Carbon tax billions to help poor nations
PAUL MURRAY, EXCLUSIVE, The West Australian
February 28, 2011, 2:35 am


Billions of dollars raised by Australia's carbon tax will end up overseas, helping poor countries battle climate change.

Prime Minister Julia Gillard's new tax will be used to allow Australia to meet its share of a $100 billion-a-year United Nations fund to transfer wealth from rich countries to help undeveloped nations adapt to global warming.

The Gillard Government is party to a UN agreement which Climate Change Minister Greg Combet entered into in December at a meeting in Cancun, Mexico, under which about 10 per cent of carbon taxes in developed nations will go into a Green Climate Fund.

Even when Ms Gillard was denying there would be a carbon tax last August, her government had committed to spend $599 million on climate change handouts over the current three-year Budget period, mainly in the Pacific and South-East Asia. About $470 million has already been allocated.

The scale of the potential overseas carbon tax payments dwarfs the $500 million in educational foreign aid to Indonesia which provoked recent bickering between the Government and the Opposition.

Former WA ALP secretary Bob McMullan, now Ms Gillard's parliamentary secretary for international development assistance, is a member of UN Secretary-General Ban Ki Moon's high level advisory group on climate change financing.

A report released by the group in November makes clear the role of carbon taxes in transferring wealth from developed countries.

"The Advisory Group emphasised the importance of a carbon price in the range of $US20-$US25 per ton of CO{-2} equivalent in 2020 as a key element of reaching the US$100 billion per year," the report said.

"Based on (that) carbon price, auctions of emission allowances and domestic carbon taxes in developed countries with up to 10 per cent of total revenues allocated for international climate action could potentially mobilise around $US30 billion annually," the report said.

"Without underestimating the difficulties to be resolved, particularly in terms of national sovereignty and incidence on developing countries, approximately $US10 billion annually could be raised from carbon pricing international transportation, assuming no net incidence on developing countries and earmarking between 25 and 50 per cent of total revenues."

The report said much of the remaining shortfall could be met from direct budget contributions by rich nations.

Mr Combet's Department of Climate Change says: "It is in Australia's interest to assist developing countries to take urgent adaptation actions and to build their capacity to reduce emissions."
It says Australia is part of a transitional committee designing the $100 billion fund, "with a view to (making the fund operational)" in time for the next UN climate talks in South Africa in December.

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Re: Labor admit carbon-tax not really about saving the world

Post by mellie » Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:15 am

It's apparent, Julia Gillard doesn't wish to answer the question directly.

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Re: Labor admit carbon-tax not really about saving the world

Post by mellie » Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:27 am

It's apparent, Julia Gillard doesn't wish to answer the question directly.

8-)

The Gillard Government is party to a UN agreement which Climate Change Minister Greg Combet entered into in December at a meeting in Cancun, Mexico, under which about 10 per cent of carbon taxes in developed nations will go into a Green Climate Fund.'

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Re: Labor admit carbon-tax not really about saving the world

Post by mellie » Tue Mar 15, 2011 1:23 am

- In 2001 UN propose a global-tax in the name of redistributing the wealth to poor nations...(communism/socialism)

http://www.un.org/ecosocdev/geninfo/afr ... 4finan.htm


-In 2007,in Aid of saving planet earth.(Sementivae , Eco-fundamentalism)

http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm? ... 59494b48a6
Over 100 Prominent Scientists Warn UN Against 'Futile' Climate Control Efforts

"Significant new peer-reviewed research has cast even more doubt on the hypothesis of dangerous human-caused global warming."

BALI, Indonesia - The UN climate conference met strong opposition Thursday from a team of over 100 prominent international scientists, who warned the UN, that attempting to control the Earth's climate was "ultimately futile."

The scientists, many of whom are current and former UN IPCC (Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change) scientists, sent an open letter to the UN Secretary-General questioning the scientific basis for climate fears and the UN's so-called "solutions."

"Attempts to prevent global climate change from occurring are ultimately futile, and constitute a tragic misallocation of resources that would be better spent on humanity's real and pressing problems," the letter signed by the scientists read. The December 13 letter was released to the public late Thursday.
http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm? ... ce4095c360
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Re: Labor admit carbon-tax not really about saving the world

Post by Ned Kelly » Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:17 am

mellie wrote:It's apparent, Julia Gillard doesn't wish to answer the question directly.

8-)
What is apparent is that you will just pluck anything out of the air and post it, truth or not.

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Re: Labor admit carbon-tax not really about saving the world

Post by mellie » Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:39 am

Ned Kelly wrote:
mellie wrote:It's apparent, Julia Gillard doesn't wish to answer the question directly.

8-)
What is apparent is that you will just pluck anything out of the air and post it, truth or not.
What's also apparent is that you have absolutely nothing intelligent to add to the conversation.

What do you mean "plucking anything out of thin air"... Dickhead, the deputy shadow minister asked her a question (concerning the carbon 10% UN tax) during Question Time and Gillard point blank refused to answer the question, much like she refuses to answer most potentially incriminating questions she feels uncomfortable answering.

eg, "Do you feel threatened by Kevin Rudds popularity" she wouldn't answer this question either.


When are you going to stop being a dope and plucking at excuses for your Labor PM's deceit?

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