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Outlaw Yogi

Re: Have we been visited by Aliens I say yes

Post by Outlaw Yogi » Sat Mar 12, 2011 12:20 am

Viking King. wrote:
So the story of St Patrick inciting the population to drive all snakes from Ireland is mere myth?
Are you saying there were no snakes, that he faked it all?
NOOOOOOOOOO!
Not me.
Tom suggested they might not have survived the last ice age in that region.
Viking King. wrote:But I will go along with the wolf story, during what period, do you know?
Apparently up untill aprox 1000 years ago ... which implies Christianity is the guilty party.

Wolves in Great Britain
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolves_in_Great_Britain
Early writing from Roman and later Saxon chronicles indicate that wolves appear to have been extraordinarily numerous on the island.[1] Unlike other British animals, wolves were unaffected by island dwarfism,[2] with certain skeletal remains indicating that they may have grown as large as Arctic wolves.[3] The species, which was a threat to livestock, human life and frequently desecrated burial sites, was exterminated from Britain through a combination of deforestation and active hunting through bounty systems.
Wolves in Ireland
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolves_in_Ireland
Wolves were once an integral part of the Irish countryside and culture. The earliest radiocarbon date for Irish wolf remains come from excavated cave sites in Castlepook Cave, north of Doneraile, county Cork, and date back to 34,000BP. Wolf bones discovered in a number of other cave sites, particularly in the counties of Cork, Waterford and Clare indicate the presence of wolf throughout the Midlandian ice age which probably reached its peak around 18,000-20,000BP.[1] The last wolf is said to have been killed in 1786.
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http://www.google.com.au/search?q=briti ... =firefox-a

Viking King.

Re: Have we been visited by Aliens I say yes

Post by Viking King. » Sat Mar 12, 2011 12:32 am

Yogi,
sorry, I only copied the line without author, wasn't diggin at ya.
although I have not reseached the wolf legend, I have don't quite a lot of family history taking me bak near 1600 yrs,
as yet within that research I have not come across anything related to wolves, but that doesn't mean it didn't occur,
I just never came across it
ie; my name in here, Viking King, Rollo, the first Viking Ruler.
Interesting, I will have to read up on the British Wolf.

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Re: Have we been visited by Aliens I say yes

Post by Super Nova » Sat Mar 12, 2011 1:25 am

How about the DoDo bird. Man hunted that to extinction. There is no doubt in this case.
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Viking King.

Re: Have we been visited by Aliens I say yes

Post by Viking King. » Sat Mar 12, 2011 1:35 am

Super Nova wrote:How about the DoDo bird. Man hunted that to extinction. There is no doubt in this case.
Yeah, but back then the Dodo would have been thier style of KFC. :lol:

Viking King.

Re: Have we been visited by Aliens I say yes

Post by Viking King. » Sat Mar 12, 2011 11:22 am

Words of Professors at Cambridge, including those of Prof Stephen Hawking.

Multi-verse = more than one universe
Singularity = everything that falls into a blackhole becoming so dence and reduced in size becomes almost nothing.
Wormhole = A way of travel over great distance through space (in theory)

In theory he says that with multi universe there must also be other life, we may or may not be the only life in our universe,
With blackholes, they draw everything in within the gavitational pull, packing it so dence it cannot escape through the entry point, space is like a sheet, where a planet or star sits it creates a dip, the heavier it becomes the deeper the dip and therefore stretching the fabric of space to be a deeper hole eventually so dence it rips the fabric apart at the point it sits, it is at this point it is called the "Big Bang" as we know it.
Therefore suggesting there must have been one or more universes to have created the singularity which then resulted as the big bang.
Also suggesting that at the moment of the "Big Bang" gravity became week, that I don't agree with, gravity would still have the same force but as we find with a magnet, the further we move an object away from it the less the effect of gravity but the strength remains the same.

Outlaw Yogi

Re: Have we been visited by Aliens I say yes

Post by Outlaw Yogi » Sat Mar 12, 2011 11:35 am

Moa
http://www.nzbirds.com/birds/moa.html
It is now accepted that Maori hunted these birds to extinction.
Was also going to mention how the Maori canibals hunted the original NZ inhabitants, Mori-Ori, to extinction on the 2 main islands of NZ, but apparently ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moriori_people
Moriori are the indigenous people of the Chatham Islands (Rekohu in Moriori, Wharekauri in Māori), east of the New Zealand archipelago in the Pacific Ocean. These people lived by a code of non-violence and passive resistance (see Nunuku-whenua), which led to their near-extinction at the hands of Māori invaders.
Today, in spite of the difficulties and genocide that Moriori faced, with unrelenting stoicism and peaceful resignation, Moriori are enjoying a renaissance, both on Rekohu and in the mainland of New Zealand. Moriori culture and identity is being revived, symbolised in January 2005 with the renewal of the Covenant of Peace at the new Kopinga marae[16] on the Chathams.

Viking King.

Re: Have we been visited by Aliens I say yes

Post by Viking King. » Sat Mar 12, 2011 11:46 am

Outlaw Yogi wrote:Moa
http://www.nzbirds.com/birds/moa.html
It is now accepted that Maori hunted these birds to extinction.
Was also going to mention how the Maori canibals hunted the original NZ inhabitants, Mori-Ori, to extinction on the 2 main islands of NZ, but apparently ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moriori_people
Moriori are the indigenous people of the Chatham Islands (Rekohu in Moriori, Wharekauri in Māori), east of the New Zealand archipelago in the Pacific Ocean. These people lived by a code of non-violence and passive resistance (see Nunuku-whenua), which led to their near-extinction at the hands of Māori invaders.
Today, in spite of the difficulties and genocide that Moriori faced, with unrelenting stoicism and peaceful resignation, Moriori are enjoying a renaissance, both on Rekohu and in the mainland of New Zealand. Moriori culture and identity is being revived, symbolised in January 2005 with the renewal of the Covenant of Peace at the new Kopinga marae[16] on the Chathams.
We are told that the "Native" New Zealander" only arrived there about 800 or 900 yrs ago, the Dodo was gone long before that I think.

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Re: Have we been visited by Aliens I say yes

Post by Viking King. » Sat Mar 12, 2011 12:32 pm

Looked up the Dodo, sorry my bad, it's only been extinct since 17th century, but was only found on the islands east of Africa.
I had always thought it was a giant bird standing 7-8 feet tall, but nope, about as big as a large turkey.

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Re: Have we been visited by Aliens I say yes

Post by boxy » Sat Mar 12, 2011 12:44 pm

Viking King. wrote:... and therefore stretching the fabric of space to be a deeper hole eventually so dence it rips the fabric apart at the point it sits, it is at this point it is called the "Big Bang" as we know it.
You were doing pretty well up until this point.

Space time is warped by the mass of everything, and yes, black holes are at the extreme end of this, warping space time to such an extent that nothing can climb out of the gravity well.

But that hasn't got anything to do with the cause of the big bang, which was the creation of the universe as we know it, and we have no way of seeing back in time "before" the big bang (if time even existed "before").
"But you will run your fluffy bunny mouth at me. And I will take it, to play poker."

Outlaw Yogi

Re: Have we been visited by Aliens I say yes

Post by Outlaw Yogi » Sat Mar 12, 2011 1:06 pm

Viking King. wrote: We are told that the "Native" New Zealander" only arrived there about 800 or 900 yrs ago,
Maori in Rotorua told me something similar, and that they migrated from Hawaiki, which I assumed to be Hawaii, but they were adamant Hawaiki wasn't Hawaii.

The "great fleet" hypothesis http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C4%81ori ... ion_canoes posited:
According to Te Ara Encyclopedia of New Zealand, "Smith’s account went as follows. In 750 AD the Polynesian explorer Kupe discovered an uninhabited New Zealand. Then in 1000–1100 AD, the Polynesian explorers Toi and Whātonga visited New Zealand, and found it inhabited by a primitive, nomadic people known as the Moriori. Finally, in 1350 AD a ‘great fleet’ of seven canoes – Aotea, Kurahaupō, Mataatua, Tainui, Tokomaru, Te Arawa and Tākitimu – all departed from the Tahitian region at the same time, bringing the people now known as Māori to New Zealand. These were advanced, warlike, agricultural tribes who destroyed the Moriori"[2]
... but ...
Historian Rāwiri Taonui, writing in 2006 for the website Te Ara - the Encyclopedia of New Zealand, accuses Smith of falsification: "The Great Fleet theory was the result of a collaboration between the 19th-century ethnologist S. Percy Smith and the Māori scholar Hoani Te Whatahoro Jury. Smith obtained details about places in Rarotonga and Tahiti during a visit in 1897, while Jury provided information about Māori canoes in New Zealand. Smith then ‘cut and pasted’ his material, combining several oral traditions into new ones. Their joint work was published in two books, in which Jury and Smith falsely attributed much of their information to two 19th-century tohunga, Moihi Te Mātorohanga and Nēpia Pōhūhū" (Taonui 2006).
... and now NZ archeologists say ...

http://www.zealand.org.nz/whakapapa1.htm
Current theories (from linguistic, archaelogical and cultural evidence) are that the ancestors of the Maori explorers derived from a migration of people of the Taiwan Ta-p'en-k'eng culture, around 3500BC, known as the Austronesians.

The Austronesians had been steadily squeezed south from Taiwan, by the expanding Chinese, and had moved down through the Phillipines, Borneo, Vietnam, Malaysia, Java, Sumatra, the Celebes, and across to the Solomons by 1600BC.

Austronesian expansion

By 1200 BC they had arrived in New Caledonia, and in Fiji and Samoa, then expanded eastward to the Society Islands, the Cook Islands and the Marquesas and Tuamotu Archipelago by around AD1. Five hundred years later, the Easter Islands were inhabited, and around 1000 AD, Pitcairn Island - and then New Zealand.

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